Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-23 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/23/2018 5:20 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: Surgex power strips are significantly more expensive than Tripp Lite. Are they better? Hi John, I made a long post about this a day or two ago, and Eric has closed this thread. The short answer is yes, MUCH better. 73, Jim

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/22/2018 11:41 AM, Dave Sublette wrote: I have just had a most unfortunate experience with a UPS and when Gary said he had an old UPS he was considering, I shuddered. As far as I know, older UPS units overcharge the battery continuously. The best "problem" this seems to cause is having to

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Let's end the thread in the interest of relieving email overload for our other readers. We're way past the OT posting limit. Eric /elecraft.com/ On 2/22/2018 11:55 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: Did you pull the trigger on the insurance most of the UPS come with? 73s and thanks, Dave

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Gary Smith
Unfortunate that happened. This is the UPS I bought at Dayton, it is the USC-30001 3KVA version. Not exactly ancient but they do mention Windows XP in the documentation... After sitting two years the batteries still are at 12.3V so they seem good. https://www.alliedelec.com/m/d/7d69ba74f4b

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Gary Smith
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Did you pull the trigger on the insurance most of the UPS come with? 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net On 02/22/2018 11:41 AM, Dave Sublette wrote: I have just had a most unfortunate experience with a UPS and when Gary said he had an old UPS he was considering, I shuddered. As

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Dave Sublette
I have just had a most unfortunate experience with a UPS and when Gary said he had an old UPS he was considering, I shuddered. As far as I know, older UPS units overcharge the battery continuously. The best "problem" this seems to cause is having to replace batteries every three years or so. In

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Jim Brown
Virtually all UPS units include MOVs, so have all of the destructive possibilities of MOV power strips. If you're going to use a UPS (and I do), it should be plugged into a shunt-mode surge protector (SurgeX, Zero Surge, or Brick wall). 73, Jim K9YC On 2/22/2018 9:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote: I

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-22 Thread Gary Smith
Folks, Thank you very much for your helpful replies. I will have a whole house protector installed. I need to review all the links and companies you kindly provided me with and make the purchase. I have an older Staco Energy UPS I've never used, bought it at Dayton a couple years back.

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Bill Frantz
On 2/21/18 at 11:05 PM, g...@ka1j.com (Gary Smith) wrote: Between my radio equipment and even more spent on high end stereo equipment, I'd like to pick up the best power strips to mitigate electrical damage. To wit, something fried both my Klipsch Chorus tweeters but left the mids & whoofers

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Jim Brown
Don't know about their quality, but it's the right way to do it. 73, Jim K9YC On 2/21/2018 7:02 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote: On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:41 AM, Jim Brown > wrote: The ONLY safe place for MOV protection is at the

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread brian
Reed, The last sentence about having to reset is true for some units and not true for others. You can find those that automatically reset. They are a bit more expensive. https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1525772-ups-power-state-after-power-loss-and-battery-depletion "As batteries

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Walter Underwood
The Wirecutter has an excellent article (with recommendations) on surge protectors. They have teardown photos, explain their testing methodology, and go into series mode protectors (SurgeX and ZeroSurge) and whole house protection. They have some nice graphs comparing SurgeX and ZeroSurge.

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Mark Goldberg
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > The ONLY safe place for MOV protection is at the service entrance -- the > "whole house protector." The only safe protection on a branch circuit > (that is, anywhere else) is a SERIES MODE protector. Series-mode

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Gil Drynan
I use an UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) gil W7GIL > Between my radio equipment and even more > spent on high end stereo equipment, I'd > like to pick up the best power strips to > mitigate electrical damage. To wit, > something fried both my Klipsch Chorus > tweeters but left the mids &

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Bob N3MNT
In keeping with the previous comments you may call your power company. I have a whole house surge protector at the service entrance provided by power company on a rental basis. it works pretty well as we have lot or surges due to storms and above ground wiring. The best part is they also

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Invest in a whole house surge protector.  Sometimes called secondary surge protector or arrestor.    It is installed at the breaker panel, preferably by a licensed electrician.  These are available at electrical supply houses and big box hardware stores, Lowe's, Home Depot, Minnards and such.  

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-21 Thread Jim Brown
Unfortunately, the most commonly "thought to be the best" surge protectors often CAUSE destructive equipment failure.  These devices use MOVs to conduct the surge to the Green wire, and that ANY surge protector that does that raises the voltage on the chassis of the equipment to a VERY high

Re: [Elecraft] OT Power Strip suggestion.

2018-02-20 Thread hawley, charles j jr
These were always thought to be the best. https://www.tripplite.com/isobar-8-outlet-surge-protector-12-ft-cord-3840-joules~ISOBAR8ULTRA Chuck c-haw...@illinois.edu Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net