[Election-Methods] Challenge: Elect the compromise when there're only 2 factions

2007-08-21 Thread Jobst Heitzig
A common situation: 2 factions & 1 good compromise. The goal: Make sure the compromise wins. The problem: One of the 2 factions has a majority. A concrete example: true ratings are 55 voters: A 100, C 80, B 0 45 voters: B 100, C 80, A 0 THE CHALLENGE: FIND A METHOD THAT WILL ELECT THE COM

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:32 AM 8/21/2007, Paul Kislanko wrote: >Just to make myself clear here, to a voter a "utility" is something like the >electric company, or the municipal water supplier. "Utilities" is a category >of stocks traded on various exchanges. > >They have nothing to do with how we vote. Ah, this is r

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:23 AM 8/21/2007, Paul Kislanko wrote: >There is no such thing as "utility" to a voter. That is an abstraction used >by analysts for which I have seen no definition that is useful to me, a >voter, despite having pleaded for one on this list for at least three years >now. The term is widely us

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:59:49 -0400 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 10:48 PM 8/20/2007, Kevin Venzke wrote: > >>That's still pretty strange... What about IRV with equal rankings allowed? > WHAT do the vote counters do that maybe can claim equal strength for such rankings, when others are not doin

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff (small correction)

2007-08-21 Thread Chris Benham
Chris Benham wrote: 31: A>>B 32: B>>C 37: C>>A Leaving aside the approval cutoffs, methods that don't elect C here must fail mono-raise. With these rankings and also C being the most approved candidate, for me a method needs a good excuse for not electing C. DMC and also "Approval-Weighte

Re: [Election-Methods] Improved Approval Runoff

2007-08-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:48 PM 8/20/2007, Kevin Venzke wrote: >That's still pretty strange... What about IRV with equal rankings allowed? Well, I suggested it long ago as a simple improvement. Voters can essentially vote it as Approval if they want. In an Approval election, if all the candidates you approve are no

[Election-Methods] Rob Richie presentation on IRV and Proportional Representation via Internet Aug 22

2007-08-21 Thread Jan Kok
Rob Richie, Executive Director of Center for Voting and Democracy, will give presentations on IRV and Proportional Representation tomorrow, Wednesday Aug 22 sometime between 1 and 4PM Mountain Time, to the Colorado Voter Choice Task Force. It should be possible to hear the proceedings over the Inte