[Election-Methods] Partisan Politics

2008-03-09 Thread Fred Gohlke
Good Morning, Juho re: But citizens may also feel that some of the elected representatives got through without any wide support, just based on their capability to explain their way through and having good luck in getting appropriate competitors/supporters when the election tree was

[Election-Methods] Test message/resending Using range ballots as an extension of ranked ballot voting

2008-03-09 Thread Michael Rouse
Hi, everyone. I was just sent a note letting me know my last message was in an unreadable format (a copy of it here: http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/attachments/20080308/a1502ffe/attachment.html), so I thought I'd resend it using Thunderbird instead of the

Re: [Election-Methods] Partisan Politics

2008-03-09 Thread Juho
On Mar 9, 2008, at 16:55 , Fred Gohlke wrote: As the levels advance, the participants need more time to evaluate those they are grouped with. I don't trust that groups of three would always make good decisions even if given time. I really don't think getting appropriate

Re: [Election-Methods] Using range ballots as an extension of ranked ballot voting

2008-03-09 Thread Juho
The explanation was clear enough for me. I have one concern - the behaviour of the counting method with clones. Let's multiply one of the candidates (A = A1 and A2). Then we would have: 1: A1=10 A2=10 B=2 C=1 D=0 1: A1=10 A2=10 C=7 B=6 D=0 1: B=10 C=6 A1=5 A2=5 D=0 3: C=10 D=5 A1=1 A2=1 B=0

[Election-Methods] Partisan Politics

2008-03-09 Thread Fred Gohlke
Good Evening, Juho re: Some rules always exist. Of course. There is no question but that rules are an important part of the process. That is not the point. The point is that, in terms of behaviour in the Active Democracy groups, harnessing human nature is more effective at governing

Re: [Election-Methods] Partisan Politics

2008-03-09 Thread Juho
On Mar 10, 2008, at 1:59 , Fred Gohlke wrote: re: The point is just that although I assume that the 'willing' people might be more responsible and as efficient leaders as the 'seeking' ones also the seeking ones may in some cases work quite well.) I suspect our views on this are