[Election-Methods] Range Voting won't eliminate spoilers

2008-03-16 Thread Greg @ Somerville for IRV
I don't believe that Range Voting will eliminate even the kind of spoilers that IRV does away with. Consider two-candidate race between Bush and Gore in which 51 voters prefer Gore to Bush and 49 prefer Bush to Gore. Following the directions given on the RangeVoting.org website, voters should give

[Election-Methods] Partisan Politics

2008-03-16 Thread Fred Gohlke
Good Evening, Juho re: ... where the political parties break out from their simple role as groups of similar minded people and start exercising power outside of the role originally planned for them. That's close. re: The problem thus is that since the votes in practice are not secret bad

[Election-Methods] Partisan Politics

2008-03-16 Thread Fred Gohlke
Good Evening, Dave re: What the parties do is more a response to the structure of government and the responsibilities of voters. Can you describe these two points more clearly? Do not the party leaders direct the parties actions? In what way(s) does the structure of government affect them?

Re: [Election-Methods] Partisan Politics

2008-03-16 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:04:12 -0500 Fred Gohlke wrote: Good Evening, Dave re: What the parties do is more a response to the structure of government and the responsibilities of voters. Can you describe these two points more clearly? Do not the party leaders direct the parties actions?

Re: [Election-Methods] Range Voting won't eliminate spoilers

2008-03-16 Thread Juho
On Mar 16, 2008, at 19:20 , Greg @ Somerville for IRV wrote: I don't believe that Range Voting will eliminate even the kind of spoilers that IRV does away with. Range sure has some weaknesses. Consider two-candidate race between Bush and Gore in which 51 voters prefer Gore to Bush and 49

Re: [Election-Methods] Using range ballots as an extension of ranked ballot voting

2008-03-16 Thread Juho
On Mar 15, 2008, at 19:55 , Michael Rouse wrote: I have one concern - the behaviour of the counting method with clones. Let's multiply one of the candidates (A = A1 and A2). Then we would have: 1: A1=10 A2=10 B=2 C=1 D=0 1: A1=10 A2=10 C=7 B=6 D=0 1: B=10 C=6 A1=5 A2=5 D=0 3: C=10 D=5 A1=1 A2=1