Re: [Election-Methods] IRV hurts racial minorities?

On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:57 , Warren Smith wrote: To reply to Gilmour ("if you are serious about representation of minorities, you start by electing the representative assembly by a sound system of proportional representation") --that may be. However, this web page was not addressing that questio

[Election-Methods] Selectricity

Anyone else seen this? http://selectricity.org/quickvote/icecream1 This looks like a nifty little project, funded by Digital Incubator (which in turn is funded by Cisco and MTV). I saw the project lead give a keynote at the O'Reilly Open Source Conference (not about this, though). The inter

Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting

I will discus only IRV vs Condorcet. On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:45:47 +0100 James Gilmour wrote: Aaron Armitage > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:11 AM IRV and all other ranked choice systems ask for the same input from voters This is where you make your first mistake. IRV and other ranked cho

Re: [Election-Methods] IRV hurts racial minorities?

> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:09:42 +0100 > From: "James Gilmour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Election-Methods] IRV hurts racial minorities? > > Whatever the merits or demerits of any single-winner voting system in > respective of minority representation, if you are serious > about represent

Re: [Election-Methods] IRV hurts racial minorities?

To reply to Gilmour ("if you are serious about representation of minorities, you start by electing the representative assembly by a sound system of proportional representation") --that may be. However, this web page was not addressing that question. It was addressing the question: "which hurts/h

[Election-Methods] Clarke taxes and group strategies

Hello friends, here is another thought about Clarke taxes and similar demand-revealing processes. As discussed, these mechanisms make range-voting strategy-free in the sense that no individual voter has an incentive to misrepresent her true ratings. Groups of voters, however, may have incent

Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Terry Bouricius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Terry Bouricius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], election-methods@lists.electorama.com > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:19 PM > Aaron, > > Just fou

Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting

Aaron, Just four little points to what Aaron Armitage wrote... 1. "You claim, in short, that using the same inputs differently makes them different inputs, and that producing the same kind of outcome differently makes it a different outcome." I believe James was arguing that while a voter's

Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: James Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting > To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:45 AM > Aaron Armitage > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 20

Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting

Aaron Armitage > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:11 AM > IRV and all > other ranked choice systems ask for the same input from > voters This is where you make your first mistake. IRV and other ranked choice voting system do not all ask for the same input from the voters. IRV asks voters to mar

Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting

Aaron's words make sense, but perhaps I can do better talking about two methods that, while using the same ballots but going at the task in different ways, usually agree as to winner. IRV looks only at best liked, discards candidate with fewest such votes, and repeats until a winner remains.