Re: [EM] Why We Shouldn't Count Votes with Machines

2008-08-27 Thread Kathy Dopp
From: Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [EM] Why We Shouldn't Count Votes with Machines > > Regrettably James is making an incorrect analysis of the problem. I believe that is a mischaracterization because James' prior email simply cited some recent articles. > BETTER to accept tha

Re: [EM] Why We Shouldn't Count Votes with Machines

2008-08-27 Thread Dave Ketchum
Regrettably James is making an incorrect analysis of the problem. Agreed that there have been some expensive disasters associated with computers and voting. ASSUMING computers were as unreliable as James' sources imply, we had best retreat from our computer-based civilization, much of which

Re: [EM] PRfavoringracialminorities

2008-08-27 Thread Raph Frank
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True. I just gave it as an option for the perfectionists who aren't > satisfied with Webster, or for the case where the election system is so > complex that adding the calculation wouldn't be noticed in theg rand s

Re: [EM] PR favoring racial minorities

2008-08-27 Thread Juho
Yes, security might force us to use simpler solutions like ballots to be similar, votes to be shorter (e.g. only two or three rankings allowed), and even to reduce the number of candidates. The latter two simplifications are already vote buying / coercion oriented. Security might also force

Re: [EM] PR favoring racial minorities

2008-08-27 Thread Juho
The idea of an appropriate size circle around candidates home (or home district) sounds like a pretty safe and simple approach. That gives also the voters a natural explanation to why some of the familiar candidates are on the list and some not. Dynamic districts may also be seen to fix som

Re: [EM] A very simple quota method based on Bucklin

2008-08-27 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Raph Frank wrote: On 8/26/08, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Inputs are ranked ballots. Each voter starts with a weight of one. The quota is Droop (Hare does much worse). Can a voter skip ranks and also is there a limited number of ranks? If you allow rank skipping, then a

Re: [EM] PRfavoringracialminorities

2008-08-27 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Raph Frank wrote: On 8/26/08, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, it uses logarithmic and exponential functions to find the divisor that corrects the bias that arises with certain assumptions about the distribution of voters. See http://rangevoting.org/NewAppo.html . Warren

Re: [EM] Why We Shouldn't Count Votes with Machines

2008-08-27 Thread James Gilmour
Dancing on E-voting’s grave http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1227&tag=nl.e019 Election loser: touch-screen voting http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1185482.html JG No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - R