Re: [EM] IRV vs Condorcet vs Range/Score

2008-10-09 Thread Raph Frank
On 10/9/08, Dave Ketchum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is a near tie among three or more, they often disagree but usually get one of the leaders - matters little since the leaders were about equally deserving. It matters because IRV reinforces the 2 party system. it would be

Re: [EM] IRV vs Condorcet vs Range/Score

2008-10-09 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:18:50 +0100 Raph Frank wrote: On 10/9/08, Dave Ketchum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is a near tie among three or more, they often disagree but usually get one of the leaders - matters little since the leaders were about equally deserving. This was part of my

Re: [EM] [RangeVoting] IRV vs Condorcet vs Range/Score

2008-10-09 Thread Dave Ketchum
I started this thread to compare IRV vs Condorcet, believing that IRV is provably less capable and deserves discarding. To make room to concentrate on this I call for a truce between Condorcet and Range, though ready to claim that Condorcet meets voter needs better than Range. Approval is a

[EM] IRV vs Condorcet vs Range/Score

2008-10-09 Thread Chris Benham
Dave Ketchum wrote: I started this thread to compare IRV vs Condorcet, believing that IRV is provably less capable and deserves discarding. Dave, Comparing a decisive method  with a criterion is a bit like comparing a person with  virtue.  As soon as you tell us which  *decisive method* you