Re: [EM] Will to Compromise

2008-10-31 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Greg, you wrote: Nondeterminism is a delightful way of skirting the Gibbard-Satterthwaite theorem. All parties can be coaxed into exposing their true opinions by resorting or the threat of resorting to chance. Actually, if I remember correctly, that theorem just said that Random Ballot

Re: [EM] Some chance for consensus (was: Buying Votes)

2008-10-31 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Raph, you wrote: I was thinking of a 'stable marriage problem' like solution. Good idea! If it works, the main difficulty will be to make the whole process monotonic, I guess... Yours, Jobst Each voter rates all the candidates. Each voter will assign his winning probability to

Re: [EM] Will to Compromise

2008-10-31 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Kristofer, you wrote: With more candidates, a minority might find that it needs to approve of a compromise with just slightly better expected value than random ballot, if the majority says that it's not going to pick a compromise closer to the minority than that just-slightly-better

Re: [EM] language/framing quibble

2008-10-31 Thread Fred Gohlke
Good Morning, Kristofer There is so much good material in your message that, instead of responding to all of it, I'm going to select bits and pieces and comment on them, one at a time, until I've responded to all of them. I hope this will help us focus on specific parts of the complex topic

Re: [EM] language/framing quibble

2008-10-31 Thread Fred Gohlke
Good Morning, Kristofer In this message, I'll respond on the topic of accountability. I'll also attach a copy of the original draft of the concept which may make my ideas a bit clearer. (Items from your letter, so I can see which ones I've answered.) re: Yes. I think recall and the likes

Re: [EM] Some chance for consensus (was: Buying Votes)

2008-10-31 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Forest, good to hear from you again! You said: Not quite as important, but still valuable, is achieving partial cooperation when that is the best that can be done: 25 A1AA2 25 A2AA1 25 B 25 C Here there isn't much hope for consensus, but it would be nice if the first two

Re: [EM] Some chance for consensus (was: Buying Votes)

2008-10-31 Thread Jobst Heitzig
Dear Raph and Forest, I have a new idea which might be monotonic, generalizing the 2-voter-marriage idea to larger groups of voters. I will define it as an optimization problem: basically, the idea is to find the socially best lottery which can be produced by starting from the Random Ballot