Re: [EM] Why the concept of sincere votes in Range is flawed.

2009-01-26 Thread Raph Frank
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Another approach to offering more flexibility (maybe not needed) and more strategy options (maybe not wanted) is to allow the voter to fill the pairwise matrix entries in whatever way. This means that also cycles can

Re: [EM] Why the concept of sincere votes in Range is flawed.

2009-01-26 Thread James Gilmour
Jonathan Lundell Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:02 AM I'm not making a particularly important point here, only that if a voter can pick a favorite (as required for plurality), then a voter can build an ordered list. I know it is straying from single-office single-winner elections in

Re: [EM] language/framing quibble

2009-01-26 Thread Fred Gohlke
Good Morning, Juho Let me start by apologizing for my tardy response. Although it was not the only cause, there was an extenuating circumstance: We were invaded ... by our offspring. My wife and I celebrated our 57th wedding anniversary and, for some reason, our family thought that worthy

[EM] Beatpath GMC compliance a mistaken standard?

2009-01-26 Thread Chris Benham
Kevin, You wrote (25 Jan 2009): I think there ought to be a clear distinction between criteria whose violation is absurd no matter what the circumstances, and criteria whose violation is absurd due to other available options. I don't see why (particularly). There are very few (named) criteria

Re: [EM] The structuring of power and the composition of norms by communicative assent

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Allan
Juho Laatu wrote: I was thinking about public formal elections (e.g. parliamentary). They nowadays generally use secret votes. Doing that same at the very bottom level of a proxy system would not be too difficult. Sorry, I missed where you said current systems. So you're talking about the

Re: [EM] The structuring of power and the composition of norms by communicative assent

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Allan
By a voting system of the public sphere, I mean... Dave Ketchum wrote: I do not see voters getting a choice. Whoever has power or authority sets up the system. Voters, at most, can choose whether to participate and/or complain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere We're using

Re: [EM] The structuring of power and the composition of norms by communicative assent

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Allan
Dave Ketchum wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere Thanks for this. I did a search on vot and am convinced voting is not one of their topics - and suspect you stretched to tie it in. I had to learn new things, and got stretched that way. I learned about this concept of the

Re: [EM] The structuring of power and the composition of norms by communicative assent

2009-01-26 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:30:41 -0500 Michael Allan wrote: Dave Ketchum wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere Thanks for this. I did a search on vot and am convinced voting is not one of their topics - and suspect you stretched to tie it in. I had to learn new things, and got