[EM] True Ranked Choice - for Condorcet

2010-08-23 Thread Dave Ketchum
I see below that leeswalker is doing his best for IRV. Would be useful if some of us could do better for Condorcet - which I see as a competitor that should win. TRC - True Ranked Choice - my thought for a possible label for Condorcet, based on: Like IRV, let's voters rank their

Re: [EM] True Ranked Choice - for Condorcet

2010-08-23 Thread Dave Ketchum
If someone can do better, fine. I DO argue that such as Burlington demonstrate TRC doing better than IRV at truly seeing voter desires. On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:38 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: On Aug 23, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Dave Ketchum wrote: I see below that leeswalker is doing his best

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2010-08-23 Thread Warren Smith
Dear Alex Small your FBC manuscript looks interesting. The typesetting is sometimes annoying (use of * for multiply). Kevin Venzke is quite right he invented MDDA not me. Ossipoff has 2 Fs. Warren D. Smith has a D. Your paper is long. It needs to be written to be more accessible. Think how

Re: [EM] True Ranked Choice - for Condorcet

2010-08-23 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Dave Ketchum wrote: I see below that leeswalker is doing his best for IRV. Would be useful if some of us could do better for Condorcet - which I see as a competitor that should win. TRC - True Ranked Choice - my thought for a possible label for Condorcet, based on: Like IRV, let's

Re: [EM] Alex Small SFBC paper draft

2010-08-23 Thread Warren Smith
On 8/23/10, Warren Smith warren@gmail.com wrote: Dear Alex Small your FBC manuscript looks interesting. The typesetting is sometimes annoying (use of * for multiply). Kevin Venzke is quite right he invented MDDA not me. Ossipoff has 2 Fs. Warren D. Smith has a D. Your paper is long.

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2010-08-23 Thread Warren Smith
The way I read it, it seems he suggests SFBC is too strong. If you insist upon SFBC, you get a method that treats at least the two first ranks equally, either directly (type 1) or indirectly (type 2). Thus you can either insist on SFBC and have methods that treat the top two of a voter's

[EM] True Ranked Choice - for Condorcet

2010-08-23 Thread Kathy Dopp
Dave, I like all your ideas here. It is amazing that people continue to misinform by making the false claim that IRV finds majority winners and solves the spoiler problem, when IRV does neither, and in fact fails more of Arrow's fairness criteria than plurality voting by exhibiting

Re: [EM] Alex Small SFBC paper draft

2010-08-23 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Warren Smith wrote: On 8/23/10, Warren Smith warren@gmail.com wrote: Dear Alex Small your FBC manuscript looks interesting. The typesetting is sometimes annoying (use of * for multiply). ... And quit with the * for multiply. maybe he means * for

Re: [EM] Alex Small SFBC paper draft

2010-08-23 Thread Warren Smith
really?? Nah, couldn't be... maybe he means * for convolution. :-/ -- Warren D. Smith http://RangeVoting.org -- add your endorsement (by clicking endorse as 1st step) and math.temple.edu/~wds/homepage/works.html Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list