Re: [EM] Interactive Representation

2011-11-06 Thread Juho Laatu
With two representatives per district this is a pretty good method, if we want a two-party system and if we accept the idea of having representatives with different weights. Spoiler and gerrymandering related problems are greatly reduced, and the method allows also third parties to grow. With

Re: [EM] Interactive Representation

2011-11-06 Thread capologist
On Nov 5, 2011, at 11:35 PM, election-methods-requ...@lists.electorama.com wrote: With two representatives per district this is a pretty good method, if we want a two-party system and if we accept the idea of having representatives with different weights. Spoiler and gerrymandering related

Re: [EM] Interactive Representation

2011-11-06 Thread Juho Laatu
Yes. It would be a quite natural approach to first count the number of seats that each party gets based on the number of votes that they got, and then use the rankings and more complex counting methods within each party separately. That would have brought the high numbers of 35 and 405 down to

Re: [EM] IRV variants

2011-11-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
Forest: I think your system (Bubble IRV, in the sense of bubble sort?) would have some good properties in terms of results. But honestly, I don't really see the point. We have a number of systems which give good results. To me, the point of designing new systems is to give good results while

Re: [EM] IRV variants

2011-11-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
I just realized I didn't give my IRV3/AV3 variant system a name. I think I'll call it 3-2-1 voting, because it is a pretty natural way (in my mind at least) to eliminate down in that fashion. 2011/11/6 Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.com Forest: I think your system (Bubble IRV, in the sense

[EM] Toy election model: 2D IQ (ideology/quality) model

2011-11-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
Here's a toy model where the math is easy and you can get some interesting results. -Voters are distributed evenly from [-1, 1] along the ideology dimension. -Candidates are represented by an ordered pair (i,q) where i is an ideology from -1 to 1 and q is a quality from 0 to 2. -The utility of a

Re: [EM] Toy election model: 2D IQ (ideology/quality) model

2011-11-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
The point of this model is not to accurately reflect reality, but to demonstrate how easy it is to get some simple, yet perhaps counterintuitive, results. That's why I repeatedly called the model a toy. In this case, what I demonstrated in my previous message almost certainly generalizes to

Re: [EM] IRV variant

2011-11-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/11/6 MIKE OSSIPOFF nkk...@hotmail.com Hi Forest-- What made me like IRV (= whole) was that, while not failing in the Approval bad-example, it meets (or so I thought) FBC, 1CM, SDSC, 3P and UP. (1CM is a milder version of SDSC. UP is a stronger version of 3P) Then, I had to abandon

Re: [EM] Toy election model: 2D IQ (ideology/quality) model

2011-11-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/11/6 Kathy Dopp kathy.d...@gmail.com On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.com wrote: The point of this model is not to accurately reflect reality, but to demonstrate how easy it is to get some simple, yet perhaps counterintuitive, results. That's why I

Re: [EM] IRV variant

2011-11-06 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 11/6/11 3:22 PM, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: I've watched someone vote in a rank-balloting presidential mock election. Though she prefers Nader's policies to those of the Democrats, she ranked all of the Democrats over Nader. it depends on how the ranked ballots are tabulated. i don't see