Re: [EM] Democracy Chronicles, introductions

On 4/23/2012 12:05 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: On 04/22/2012 05:07 PM, Richard Fobes wrote: The core of the system is VoteFair popularity ranking, which is mathematically equivalent to the Condorcet-Kemeny method, which is one of the methods supported by the Declaration of

[EM] Definitions of FBC, Strong FBC, and Intermediate FBC.

I realize now that I thoroughly mucked up the attempted definition of Intermediate FBC. As I said, this subject of stronger FBCs (stronger than the FBC that I've been defining and using for years, which we can call Weak FBC, or just FBC) is completely new to me. I should start by re-posting my

[EM] An Intermediate FBC more in keeping with Weak and Strong FBCs

I emphasize that these tentatively-defined stronger FBCs aren't really needed. The weaker FBC that I've been defining and using is enough to distinguish the seriously-failing methods. The methods that pass don't run afoul of Kristofer's question about how simple the non-betrayal is. Still, it

Re: [EM] Democracy Chronicles, introductions

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Richard Fobes electionmeth...@votefair.org wrote: On 4/23/2012 12:05 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: On 04/22/2012 05:07 PM, Richard Fobes wrote: The core of the system is VoteFair popularity ranking, which is mathematically equivalent to the

[EM] Election thinking,

Dear Mr. Ossipoff and colleagues, Thank you for your help.  Clearly, I will not be able to function as a moderator of these article discussions because I am very new to most of this material.  But from my perspective, the conversations have been very helpful.  I think it is important for me to

Re: [EM] Democracy Chronicles, introductions

In the non-mathematical world the word equivalent means having similar or identical effects which allows for not _always_ being _identical_ in _all_ respects. That is the context for usage in the Democracy Chronicles article. Even in a rigorous academic mathematical context, equivalent means

[EM] Much clearer and best yet Intermediate FBC definition--probably final definition of Intermediate FBC.

Last night I posted brief definitions of FBC (also called Weak FBC) and Strong FBC. Intermediate FBC can't be clearly defined that briefly. Henceforth, when I say Intermediate FBC, I'll be referring to the Intermediate FBC that is defined in this post. Intermediate FBC: Premise: Worse is the

[EM] Version 2: Without the word alone

Version 2 of Intermediate FBC omits the word alone from the Requirement section. I call that Intermediate FBC-2. That makes the criterion stronger, more demanding. So I'm proposing two versions of Intermediate FBC: 1, Intermediate FBC 2. Intermediate FBC-2 I expect that all of the methods that

[EM] The article plan sounds fine to me.

Adrian-- The plan for the article sounds fine to me. I greatly appreciate that opportunity to share information about the powerful and feasible Approval voting system. Mike Ossipoff Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] Kristofer, re; ICT and Approval, part 1

** Kristofer: I'm going to improve my answers to this post. You wrote: But I'm pretty sure that ICT fails clone independence. Clearly CT does... [endquote] Some criteria compliances must be given up for others. I consider FBC and defection-resistance to be the important considerations,

[EM] Kristofer, re: ICT and Approval, part 2

* In MCA, MTA, etc., the middle rating is only for candidates barely **qualifying for an approval in Approval, and candidates almost ** qualiifying for an approval in Approval. In ABucklin, I suggest that the ** whole range of rank positions below top and above bottom should be reserved ** for