Re: [EM] secret ballots and proxy voting

2013-04-10 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
On 04/09/2013 04:01 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: You can make up complicated scenarios that bear no resemblance to what would actually happen, and scare yourself with them. The Mafia is just another interest group. Attempting to apply large-scale coercion tends to piss people off. They don't

Re: [EM] secret ballots and proxy voting

2013-04-10 Thread Peter Zbornik
Dear Bayle, a second clarification. The voter can split his/her vote to several vote streams which are similar or identical. Then the vote buying and selling becomes much more complicated, since the votes are split. Best regards Peter ZbornĂ­k 2013/4/8 Peter Zbornik pzbor...@gmail.com Dear

Re: [EM] Clone properties for proportional representation

2013-04-10 Thread Ross Hyman
How about this for independence of clone criteria that are compatible with Droop proportionality? Cloning a winning candidate should not turn a loosing candidate into a winner. Cloning a loosing candidate should not turn a winning candidate into a looser. --- On Mon, 4/8/13, Ross Hyman

Re: [EM] secret ballots and proxy voting

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Allan
Bayle, Abd and Kristofer, Bayle Shanks wrote: Give each person two ballots: a secret ballot and a public ballot. Or two kinds of election. Proxy voting is well suited to advisory elections, as Abd calls them. He's written eloquently on the secret ballot as a red herring in this context: