Re: [EM] Gerrymandering solutions.

2012-06-07 Thread Bob Richard
On 6/4/2012 10:18 PM, Michael Ossipoff wrote: [snip] 2. Whatever can be accomplished by PR can be accomplished by an at-large single winner election, because every single winner method can output a ranking of candidates instead of just one winner: Elect the winner. Then delete the winner from

Re: [EM] Gerrymandering solutions.

2012-06-06 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Ted: You said: Michael, you are stepping naively into an area that has been very well studied. I include a couple of points below you may want to consider. Of course, it's necessary to check out your points before answering about the purported naivete of my suggestions. But I would

Re: [EM] Gerrymandering solutions.

2012-06-06 Thread Paul Kislanko
Ossipoff Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:22 PM To: 'Ted Stern'; election-methods@lists.electorama.com Subject: Re: [EM] Gerrymandering solutions. Ted: You said: Michael, you are stepping naively into an area that has been very well studied. I include a couple of points below you may want to consider

Re: [EM] Gerrymandering solutions.

2012-06-05 Thread Ted Stern
Michael, you are stepping naively into an area that has been very well studied. I include a couple of points below you may want to consider. On 04 Jun 2012 22:18:06 -0700, Michael Ossipoff wrote: About gerrymanmdering; PR would be a solution to gerrymandering, but certainly not the only one:

Re: [EM] Gerrymandering solutions.

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Ossipoff
About gerrymanmdering; PR would be a solution to gerrymandering, but certainly not the only one: 1. Proxy Direct Democracy wouldn't have a gerrymandering problem either. If Proxy DD can be made count-fraud-secure, then it would make PR obsolete. 2. Whatever can be accomplished by PR can be