Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-21 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Paul Kislanko wrote: There are several ways to make ballots-counted public record without compromising the anonymity of ballots-cast. The trick is to assign a unique key to each POTENTIAL ballot-cast, and expose said key only to the voter who casts an actual ballot. The collecting authority p

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-17 Thread Paul Kislanko
There are several ways to make ballots-counted public record without compromising the anonymity of ballots-cast. The trick is to assign a unique key to each POTENTIAL ballot-cast, and expose said key only to the voter who casts an actual ballot. The collecting authority publishes the list of key

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-17 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Mike Frank wrote: Here is another question. Will average people really gain confidence from cryptographic ballot certificates? To explain the issue in a more detail: The certificates in my system (like other crypto-based voting systems) only really "prove" anything if you accept certain cry

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-17 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Mike Frank wrote: Hello, Thank you for the detailed and thoughtful critique. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: How would this system work? I guess you could use blind signatures to submit the actual votes, but

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Frank
Here is another question. Will average people really gain confidence from cryptographic ballot certificates? To explain the issue in a more detail: The certificates in my system (like other crypto-based voting systems) only really "prove" anything if you accept certain cryptographic assumptions,

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-08 Thread Raph Frank
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Mike Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is a good point, although may I point out that it is similarly > improbable that the vote-buyer will successfully influence the election > outcome by buying only my one vote. To have a good chance of influencing > the ou

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Frank
That is a good point, although may I point out that it is similarly improbable that the vote-buyer will successfully influence the election outcome by buying only my one vote. To have a good chance of influencing the outcome, he has to buy a lot of votes. This increases the chance he will get cau

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-08 Thread Raph Frank
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Mike Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And anyway, politicians effectively "buy > votes" all the time already, whenever they promise certain classes of voters > goodies such as tax rebates and the like Just a note, that is actually different from vote buying in a f

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-07 Thread Mike Frank
Hello, Thank you for the detailed and thoughtful critique. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How would this system work? I guess you could use blind signatures to > submit the actual votes, but how would it ensure the voters that their votes > ar

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-07 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Mike Frank wrote: Hello, I was thinking of building a free public web service, perhaps operated by a charitable NPO, that would allow organizations (including perhaps small governments) to operate online elections in a way that offers some sophisticated modern security features. In addition

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-05 Thread Michael Allan
Brian Olson wrote: > I run http://betterpolls.com/ which is generally designed to take > votes from random people on the internet, but can also do > registered-voters-only. Looks like Better Polls is for snap referenda. > I hadn't seen zelea.com before... (It's not a polling site. It's just my

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-04 Thread Brian Olson
Hi Mike(s), I hadn't seen zelea.com before. It looks interesting but I'm not sure how to use it to actually run a vote on something. I run http://betterpolls.com/ which is generally designed to take votes from random people on the internet, but can also do registered-voters-only. I think it

Re: [EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-04 Thread Michael Allan
Mike Frank wrote: > Hello, I was thinking of building a free public web service, perhaps > operated by a charitable NPO, that would allow organizations (including > perhaps small governments) to operate online elections in a way that offers > some sophisticated modern security features. Hi Mike,

[EM] Idea for a free web service for (relatively) secure online voting

2008-10-04 Thread Mike Frank
Hello, I was thinking of building a free public web service, perhaps operated by a charitable NPO, that would allow organizations (including perhaps small governments) to operate online elections in a way that offers some sophisticated modern security features. In addition to taking standard secu