Re: [EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-15 Thread Jameson Quinn
One kind of SODA strategy which I didn't discuss is candidate preference-declaration strategy aimed, not at directly attaining a better result, but at attracting votes. This would basically take two forms: established candidates truncating upstarts to try to minimize their importance, and a candida

Re: [EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-15 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/12/15 Andrew Myers > On 7/22/64 2:59 PM, Andy Jennings wrote: > >> I don't see any huge theoretical downsides. Do others still have >> reservations about SODA? I realize that some people may be opposed to >> delegation, in principle. And others think delegable systems just don't >> have a

Re: [EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-15 Thread Andrew Myers
On 7/22/64 2:59 PM, Andy Jennings wrote: I don't see any huge theoretical downsides. Do others still have reservations about SODA? I realize that some people may be opposed to delegation, in principle. And others think delegable systems just don't have a chance of getting implemented. So I

Re: [EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-14 Thread fsimmons
Like Andy I prefer SODA as well, especially for a deterministic method. In some settings I prefer certain stochastic methods to deterministic methods. But my curiosity impels me to see what can be done while ignoring or putting aside the advantages of both chance and delegation. Election

Re: [EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-14 Thread Jameson Quinn
Further responses to Andy's advantage list: 2011/12/14 Andy Jennings > Jameson, > > Believe me, I'm on board with SODA. I think I, too, like it better than > LRV, but I'm still trying to get a handle on LRV to make sure. > > In my opinion (and my wording), SODA's advantages are: > > 1. The lazi

Re: [EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-14 Thread Jameson Quinn
Thanks, Andy, for the SODA endorsement. I agree with the advantages you list, but I would add the avoidance of the chicken dilemma (that is, the lack of either a self-reinforcing truncation incentive or hard-to-defend "mindreading"results that give a burial incentive) as an important advantage. Com

Re: [EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-14 Thread Andy Jennings
Jameson, Believe me, I'm on board with SODA. I think I, too, like it better than LRV, but I'm still trying to get a handle on LRV to make sure. In my opinion (and my wording), SODA's advantages are: 1. The laziest possible voter, who just bullet votes for his favorite, is still casting a (nearl

[EM] SODA might be the method we've been looking for.

2011-12-13 Thread Jameson Quinn
I believe that LRV (Least Resentment Voting) is indeed quite a clever solution to the chicken dilemma. But once more, I'd like to remind people that there is a way to solve the chicken dilemma without risking a victory by the plurality winner/condorcet loser. I'm speaking of course of SODA. First,