Re: [Election-Methods] Measuring power in a multi winner election

2007-09-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:22 PM 9/25/2007, Juho wrote: >One more approach would be to give the parties some "veto votes" that >they can use as they wish during the period between elections. If >some party in on the losing side in some vote by 5% margin it could >still veto and use 5 of its veto votes to do that (maybe

Re: [Election-Methods] Measuring power in a multi winner election

2007-09-25 Thread Juho
On Sep 24, 2007, at 23:03 , Howard Swerdfeger wrote: >> One alternative approach would be to require higher percentage of >> votes >> in some cases, e.g. after decisions have been made with lower >> percentages for few times. In this case 30%+30% would not be >> enough any >> more in some case

Re: [Election-Methods] Measuring power in a multi winner election

2007-09-24 Thread Howard Swerdfeger
Howard Swerdfeger wrote: > |-|--||-| > | YEAR | PropRep | PropPower | System | > |-|--||-| > | 1993 | 18.3| 54.0 | FPTP | > | 1996 | 6.0| 10.2 | MMP | > | 1999 | 4.7| 12.2

Re: [Election-Methods] Measuring power in a multi winner election

2007-09-24 Thread Howard Swerdfeger
Juho wrote: > Some random observations on the theme. > > "Seats != power" seems to assume that there is a hard party discipline > (=all party representatives will/must vote as told by the party). Or > alternatively representatives could have different weights (different > number of votes each

Re: [Election-Methods] Measuring power in a multi winner election

2007-09-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:22 AM 9/21/2007, Howard Swerdfeger wrote: >The drive behind thes moves it usually that the old system fails to >translate votes into seats "fairly". (Votes != Seats) If we want to understand fair proportional representation, we must look back to the principle of representation itself, and t

Re: [Election-Methods] Measuring power in a multi winner election

2007-09-21 Thread Juho
Some random observations on the theme. "Seats != power" seems to assume that there is a hard party discipline (=all party representatives will/must vote as told by the party). Or alternatively representatives could have different weights (different number of votes each). You skipped the "

[Election-Methods] Measuring power in a multi winner election

2007-09-21 Thread Howard Swerdfeger
I know that this list is primarily single winner elections but I thought given the low volume as of late a slight change of topic would be welcome. with that, I was wondering about multi winner elections. specifically the parliamentary kind typical of most former British colonies. Do to the