Re: [EM] British Colombia considering change to STV

I don't think that IRV/STV is even worth wasting time discussing unless you fully support the following: 1. treating voters' ballots inequitably by counting 2nd and 3rd choices of only some voters, counting the 2nd and 3rd choices of even fewer cvoters in a timely fashion when those candidates are

Re: [EM] British Colombia considering change to STV

2009/5/3 James Gilmour : > So the questions that must be answered first are not about the "degree of > proportionality" or "the complexity of the ballot", or > even "the size of the districts", but about what the voting system is > intended to achieve in terms of "representation".  Some will > be

Re: [EM] British Colombia considering change to STV

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: > I think Schulze's MMP idea would work well here. Use STV (or some other > neutral method) for district seats, then "top up" by nationwide MMP. His > concept includes ways of fixing the decoy list problem (basically, > downweighting v

Re: [EM] British Colombia considering change to STV

Raph Frank > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 1:51 AM > I think a candidate list system is better though as it allows > more general inheritance ordering. Ofc, it is always going > to be a tradeoff between precision and complexity (both for > the count and for the voter). > > Closed party list > Op

Re: [EM] PR-STV with approval based elimination

Dan Bishop wrote: You could use Plurality (with vote-splitting between equally ranked candidates) to determine surpluses and a different method to determine eliminations. For example, [snip] So the winning set is {Andre, Escher, Gore}. Coincidentally, the same as the CPO-STV result. Yes

Re: [EM] British Colombia considering change to STV

Raph Frank wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Juho Laatu wrote: It practice that seems to set the limits to max 4 and min 2 parties/groupings per constituency represented in the Dail. \ The small constituency sizes do hurt the s