Re: [EM] Condorcet How?

2010-03-22 Thread Markus Schulze
Hallo, here are some interesting videos on IRV in Burlington: http://www.cctv.org/watch-tv/programs/instant-runoff-voting-interviews http://www.cctv.org/watch-tv/programs/irv-or-down-instant-runoff-voting-debate I have the impression that there was no reasonable debate on IRV. Most anti-IRV

Re: [EM] Condorcet How?

2010-03-22 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 22, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Markus Schulze wrote: here are some interesting videos on IRV in Burlington: http://www.cctv.org/watch-tv/programs/instant-runoff-voting-interviews http://www.cctv.org/watch-tv/programs/irv-or-down-instant-runoff- voting-debate i've seen them. if i had reacted

Re: [EM] Proportional Representation Systems I'd Support

2010-03-22 Thread Kathy Dopp
Upon cursory reflection and in response to my strong opposition to any nonmonotonic method and to any method that fail to treat all voters' votes equally, the only proportional method I know I would support for legislative representation would be the party list system where candidates appear only

Re: [EM] Proportional Representation Systems I'd Support

2010-03-22 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Kathy Dopp wrote: Upon cursory reflection and in response to my strong opposition to any nonmonotonic method and to any method that fail to treat all voters' votes equally, the only proportional method I know I would support for legislative representation would be the party list system where

Re: [EM] Condorcet How?

2010-03-22 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Robert, are you the questioner at 00:42:00 -- 00:44:25? Markus Schulze Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[EM] Proportionality-preference tradeoffs

2010-03-22 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
After reading the post on measuring multiwinner goodness (and writing a reply to it), I started to think of how to determine how good the different multiwinner methods actually are. One way to do that is by criterion compliance. But there is another: while proportionality can't be expressed

Re: [EM] Proportional Representation Systems I'd Support

2010-03-22 Thread James Gilmour
Kristofer Munsterhjelm Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:24 PM I think your more complex party list PR (with cross endorsement) could work while still passing all three criteria. It's certainly summable and proportional, so the only difficulty would be in making it monotone. Simply

Re: [EM] Condorcet How?

2010-03-22 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 22, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Markus Schulze wrote: Dear Robert, are you the questioner at 00:42:00 -- 00:44:25? it could be. i dunno if i wanna load the video again and figure that out. i was pointing out that the purpose we adopted IRV in the first place was to relieve the split