Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Peter Zbornik
Dear all, I am sending a post scriptum to the email below. 1. The conservative method is only interesting if, the unambiguously pre-elected president and vice president(s) are not in the set of proportionally (for instance STV) elected council members. 2. If the unambiguously elected president

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Juho
On May 3, 2010, at 3:51 AM, Peter Zbornik wrote: Dear all, if the single-winner president or the proportionally elected VPs sometimes are not a member of the set of proportionally elected council members (which is likely), Possible but maybe not very common. then I would also like to ask

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Raph Frank, you wrote (3 May 2010): For the rest of the council, I think electing them using Schulze-STV with the restriction that only results where the President and VP are members are allowed would give better proportionality. If I understand Peter Zbornik correctly, then he wants

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Peter Zbornik
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Markus Schulze markus.schu...@alumni.tu-berlin.de wrote: Dear Raph Frank, you wrote (3 May 2010): For the rest of the council, I think electing them using Schulze-STV with the restriction that only results where the President and VP are members are

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Raph Frank
2010/5/3 Juho juho4...@yahoo.co.uk: (What I mean by distorting effect is that if you have left, centre and right, and centre has less first place support than the other two, then a good approach may be to elect C if one elects only one representative. But if one elects two then one could pick

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Juho
On May 3, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Raph Frank wrote: 2010/5/3 Juho juho4...@yahoo.co.uk: (What I mean by distorting effect is that if you have left, centre and right, and centre has less first place support than the other two, then a good approach may be to elect C if one elects only one

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Juho
On May 3, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Peter Zbornik wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Markus Schulze markus.schu...@alumni.tu-berlin.de wrote: Dear Raph Frank, you wrote (3 May 2010): For the rest of the council, I think electing them using Schulze-STV with the restriction that only results

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Greenparty - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread James Gilmour
Peter Zbornik Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:07 PM On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Markus Schulze If I understand Peter Zbornik correctly, then he wants a ranking of the members of the council, so that it is clear who the 2nd vice president, the 3rd vice president, the 4th vice

[EM] Beatpath program for meetings

2010-05-03 Thread Árpád Magosányi
Hi! Here is the new (and as far as I am concerned now, ready) version of my little voting program. It is designed to be used in a village meeting where there is only one computer, and too much people to cast votes one by one. In the rows of the vote tab you give the candidates, and the number of

[EM] Underneath the hood: Controversy over the best voting system.

2010-05-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
For years, voting systems were studied through the use of criteria, standards which a system either passes or fails. These criteria often assumed a preference order, sometimes assuming that this preference order exists outside what is expressed on the ballot. Arrow's accomplishment was in

Re: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech Green party - Council elections

2010-05-03 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Peter Zbornik wrote: Dear all, I am sending a post scriptum to the email below. 1. The conservative method is only interesting if, the unambiguously pre-elected president and vice president(s) are not in the set of proportionally (for instance STV) elected council members. 2. If the

[EM] WMA (It's not monotonic or participation compliant, after all)

2010-05-03 Thread fsimmons
Kevin and Chris, You’re both right, my “proof” only showed that raising the winner W could not hurt her prospects on ballots where she was already approved or on ballots where she was rated at the highest currently unapproved level. But , as Kevin pointed out, if there were candidates at two