[EM] A design flaw in the electoral system

2011-10-03 Thread Michael Allan
Thanks very much for replying, Fred. Metagovernment is a good list for these kind of discussions, as good as any I know. You'd definitely be welcome there. I'll look up the reference you mention, and respond more fully soon. In the meantime, I wish to share an updated abstract, plus a first

Re: [EM] A design flaw in the electoral system

2011-10-03 Thread James Gilmour
Michael Allan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:31 AM ABSTRACT An individual vote has no effect on the formal outcome of the election; whether the vote is cast or not, the outcome is the same regardless. These statements worry me - surely they contain a logical flaw? If these

Re: [EM] A design flaw in the electoral system

2011-10-03 Thread Juho Laatu
On 3.10.2011, at 11.56, James Gilmour wrote: Michael Allan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:31 AM ABSTRACT An individual vote has no effect on the formal outcome of the election; whether the vote is cast or not, the outcome is the same regardless. These statements worry me

Re: [EM] PR approval voting

2011-10-03 Thread Ted Stern
On 03 Oct 2011 12:23:10 -0700, Toby Pereira wrote: I noticed on your page that you suspect that all multi-winner methods fail participation. I don't think that's the case. I would suggest that Forest Simmons's Proportional Approval Voting passes it. Also I think my versions of Proportional

[EM] advocacy: Approval is premature compromise

2011-10-03 Thread Brian Olson
I know that Approval is technically better than a lot of things, and I think it's better than IRV, but I want to argue that it's not good enough and we shouldn't aim low or advocate it too strongly. I've always been personally unsatisfied with the prospect of filling out an Approval ballot.

Re: [EM] PR approval voting

2011-10-03 Thread Ross Hyman
A range voting generalization is the following: The score that the ith ballot assigns to the ath candidate is s_i,a.  v_i,a is the vote assigned to candidate a from the ith ballot.  The optimal v_i,a is determined iteratively.   For each candidate set 1) choose an initial v_i,a. such that sum_a

Re: [EM] advocacy: Approval is premature compromise

2011-10-03 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 10/3/11 4:54 PM, Brian Olson wrote: I know that Approval is technically better than a lot of things, and I think it's better than IRV, but I want to argue that it's not good enough and we shouldn't aim low or advocate it too strongly. I've always been personally unsatisfied with the