Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-10 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Juho Laatu wrote: On 9.7.2011, at 14.23, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: Juho Laatu wrote: After some recent discussions and thoughts around two-party systems I thought it would be interesting to discuss two-party systems also in a more positive spirit. The assumption is thus that we want the

Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-10 Thread Juho Laatu
First I'll try to clarify the definitions a bit. It is so obvious what a two-party system is, but when I think more carefully it is not that clear. Two-party system: - has a single-party government - one of the two major parties forms the government and the other one forms (the main part of)

Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-09 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Juho Laatu wrote: After some recent discussions and thoughts around two-party systems I thought it would be interesting to discuss two-party systems also in a more positive spirit. The assumption is thus that we want the system to be two-party oriented. We want to have two strong parties, and

Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-09 Thread James Gilmour
Juho Laatu Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:35 AM After some recent discussions and thoughts around two-party systems I thought it would be interesting to discuss two-party systems also in a more positive spirit. The assumption is thus that we want the system to be two-party oriented.

Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-09 Thread Juho Laatu
On 9.7.2011, at 14.23, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: Juho Laatu wrote: After some recent discussions and thoughts around two-party systems I thought it would be interesting to discuss two-party systems also in a more positive spirit. The assumption is thus that we want the system to be

Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-09 Thread Juho Laatu
On 9.7.2011, at 16.14, James Gilmour wrote: Juho Laatu Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:35 AM After some recent discussions and thoughts around two-party systems I thought it would be interesting to discuss two-party systems also in a more positive spirit. The assumption is thus that we

Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-09 Thread James Gilmour
Juho I regret to have to say that I find your approach confused and confusing, and basically anti-democratic - which is a surprise and a disappointment. There is nothing at all wrong with a two party system if that is what the voters really want. But it is something else altogether to devise

Re: [EM] Challenge: two-party methods

2011-07-09 Thread Juho Laatu
On 9.7.2011, at 19.59, James Gilmour wrote: Juho I regret to have to say that I find your approach confused and confusing, and basically anti-democratic - which is a surprise and a disappointment. I agree that democracy as defined by this challenge sets some strict limits to how