At 04:43 PM 3/26/2010, Kathy Dopp wrote:
Well that would certainly be a way of overcoming any effective
minority representation in legislatures by always making sure that the
representative elected by a majority made all the decisions. Not sure
if I agree necessarily with giving more votes to
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
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At 04:43 PM 3/26/2010, Kathy Dopp wrote:
Well that would certainly be a way of overcoming any effective
minority representation in legislatures by always making sure that the
representative elected by a majority
Kathy Dopp wrote:
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From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm km-el...@broadpark.no
The general scheme would then be: party
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
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Kathy Dopp wrote:
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Kathy, it seems that, to a degree, your thinking about proportional
representation has been colored by the problems of STV as applied to
single-winner elections. Let me suggest that you back up a bit and
reflect on the purpose of representation in decision-making as
distinct from
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
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You can't hold a runoff election, and here is why: Some voters already got
their candidate. A runoff under these conditions has no way of knowing who
won and who didn't.
The multi-seat equivalent of top-2 runoff
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From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm km-el...@broadpark.no
To: Raph Frank raph...@gmail.com
It sounds more like a
Raph Frank Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:01 PM
In relation to the Swiss Federal Parliament election system
It is like a cumulative voting version of MMP, but there is
no mechanism for a candidate to win without being a member of a party.
No, it's not at all like MMP. In MMP half or
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.uk wrote:
No, it's not at all like MMP. In MMP half or more of the members are elected
from single-member electoral districts (usually by
FPTP). The additional members in MMP are elected by party-list (usually
Raph Frank Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:31 PM
Sorry, I wasn't clear at all.
No, it certainly wasn't clear.
I was thinking of the decoy
list issue with MMP.
I don't think this is at all a helpful way of looking at the Swiss CN voting
system.
What I meant was that it is like MMP in
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:14 PM, James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.uk wrote:
No, it is not at all like MMP in that. ALL the votes are party votes. All
the votes are used to allocate seats to parties and then
the votes within parties are used to decide which candidates should fill the
Raph Frank wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, James Gilmour
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No, it's not at all like MMP. In MMP half or more of the members
are elected from single-member electoral districts (usually by
FPTP). The additional members in MMP are elected by party-list
Would it be possible to plant one's own candidates inside the
competing parties and vote for them? Probably not in practice even if
this was possible in theory.
Ability to influence which candidates of the other parties will be
elected changes the nature of the system a bit in any case (=
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Juho juho.la...@gmail.com wrote:
Would it be possible to plant one's own candidates inside the competing
parties and vote for them? Probably not in practice even if this was
possible in theory.
Ability to influence which candidates of the other parties will be
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:08 AM, James Gilmour
jgilm...@globalnet.co.uk wrote:
In the (much) more complicated Swiss system, the apparentenement is
determined by each individual
voter.
Do you have a link to the method that they use? Is it just open party list?
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Google turned up this description of the Swiss electoral system:
http://www.democracy-building.info/particularities-switzerlands-proportional-election-system.html
I haven't seen this website before. The rest of it looks pretty basic.
--Bob Richard
James Gilmour wrote:
Raph Frank Sent:
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Bob Richard
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Google turned up this description of the Swiss electoral system:
http://www.democracy-building.info/particularities-switzerlands-proportional-election-system.html
Thanks.
So, from my read, it is party list, but
Upon cursory reflection and in response to my strong opposition to any
nonmonotonic method and to any method that fail to treat all voters'
votes equally, the only proportional method I know I would support for
legislative representation would be the party list system where
candidates appear only
Kathy Dopp wrote:
Upon cursory reflection and in response to my strong opposition to any
nonmonotonic method and to any method that fail to treat all voters'
votes equally, the only proportional method I know I would support for
legislative representation would be the party list system where
Kristofer Munsterhjelm Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:24 PM
I think your more complex party list PR (with cross endorsement) could
work while still passing all three criteria. It's certainly summable and
proportional, so the only difficulty would be in making it monotone.
Simply
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