On 02/20/2012 03:34 AM, Richard Fobes wrote:
On 2/19/2012 1:24 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote:
On 02/19/2012 06:18 AM, Richard Fobes wrote:
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More specifically, European politicians seem to be as clueless as U.S.
politicians about what is needed to create jobs and restore
widespread
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Richard Fobes
electionmeth...@votefair.org wrote:
Another way to understand the second problem is to consider what would
happen if 55% of the voters in a state favor the Republican Party, and the
remaining 45% favor the Democratic Party, and there is an even
On 02/19/2012 06:18 AM, Richard Fobes wrote:
I have in mind European parliaments where coalitions are typically needed.
In my opinion, coalitions require back-room compromises that most voters
would not like (if they knew what those compromises were).
I have not seen any parliamentary
David L Wetzell Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:21 PM
If voters can help elect a 3rd party more easily then it
doesn't matter if there's a stronger role for party hierarchy
in the determination of their party's candidate.
This is far from the reality - it matters a great deal.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 6:58 PM, James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.ukwrote:
David L Wetzell Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:31 PM
James Gilmour: But why would you want all these differences
and complications?
dlw: Because context matters.
I have great difficulty in believing
On 2/17/2012 12:54 PM, David L Wetzell wrote:
From: Richard Fobes electionmeth...@votefair.org
As for STV, going beyond two seats easily produces unfair results.
And in the U.S. the results also would be quite unstable
(i.e. not mesh well with the current two-party system).
Hi Richard,
De : Richard Fobes electionmeth...@votefair.org
À : election-meth...@electorama.com
Envoyé le : Samedi 18 février 2012 14h47
Objet : Re: [EM] STV vs Party-list PR, could context matter?
I do favor having more than two parties, but I don't see how
On 2/18/2012 1:49 PM, Kevin Venzke wrote:
Hi Richard,
*De :* Richard Fobes electionmeth...@votefair.org
I do favor having more than two parties, but I don't see how three (or
more) strong parties can be accommodated until after Congress and state
legislatures use voting methods that are
It seems to me that most folks think the choice is between ranked choices
or party-list PR.
I don't. I think that party-list removes voter freedom, and ranked choices
is too much of a burden on the voter. While either would be better than
what we have, I prefer to use delegation a la SODA.
] On
Behalf Of David L Wetzell
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:49 PM
To: EM
Subject: [EM] STV vs Party-list PR, could context matter?
It seems to me that a common sense solution would be to base
which gets used on the propensity for voters to be informed
about the elections.
Also, the two
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.comwrote:
It seems to me that most folks think the choice is between ranked choices
or party-list PR.
I don't. I think that party-list removes voter freedom, and ranked choices
is too much of a burden on the voter. While
On 2/17/2012 6:49 AM, David L Wetzell wrote:
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It seems to me that most folks think the choice is between ranked
choices or party-list PR. ...
So what do you think?
I don't see this as an either/or choice, nor do I see a viable both
option being suggested.
So I'll again suggest VoteFair
From: Richard Fobes electionmeth...@votefair.org
To: election-meth...@electorama.com
Cc:
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:01:16 -0800
Subject: Re: [EM] STV vs Party-list PR, could context matter?
On 2/17/2012 6:49 AM, David L Wetzell wrote:
...
It seems to me that most folks think the choice
: Richard Fobes electionmeth...@votefair.org
To: election-meth...@electorama.com
Cc:
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:01:16 -0800
Subject: Re: [EM] STV vs Party-list PR, could context matter?
On 2/17/2012 6:49 AM, David L Wetzell wrote:
...
It seems to me that most folks think the choice is between
-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com
[mailto:election-methods-boun...@lists.electorama.com] On Behalf Of David L
Wetzell
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:21 PM
To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com
Subject: Re: [EM] STV vs Party-list PR, could context matter?
I give a rebuttal to the Electoral
David L Wetzell Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:31 PM
James Gilmour: But why would you want all these differences
and complications?
dlw: Because context matters.
I have great difficulty in believing that there are such context specific
differences. I could believe that there are
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