Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-14 Thread David L Wetzell
-- Forwarded message -- From: Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk dlw: But I'd argue that to make our two-party system work better, we need to provide a constructive role for 3rd parties in it. This wd be accomplished by the use of 3-seat LR Hare in state reps elections. If

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-13 Thread David L Wetzell
-- Forwarded message -- From: Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk dlw: But I'd argue that to make our two-party system work better, we need to provide a constructive role for 3rd parties in it. This wd be accomplished by the use of 3-seat LR Hare in state reps elections. If the

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-13 Thread Juho Laatu
On 13.2.2012, at 16.28, David L Wetzell wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk dlw: But I'd argue that to make our two-party system work better, we need to provide a constructive role for 3rd parties in it. This wd be accomplished by the use

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-10 Thread David L Wetzell
-methods@lists.electorama.com Cc: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 22:07:07 +0200 Subject: Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism. On 9.2.2012, at 17.21, David L Wetzell wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk To: EM list election-methods@lists.electorama.com

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread David L Wetzell
-- Forwarded message -- From: Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk To: EM list election-methods@lists.electorama.com Cc: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:29:02 +0200 Subject: Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism. On 8.2.2012, at 16.18, David L Wetzell wrote: ... dlw:At any rate

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Juho Laatu wrote: On 8.2.2012, at 16.18, David L Wetzell wrote: ... At any rate, this is why I've argued that ascertaining the best single-winner election rule is nowhere near as important as pitching the importance of mixing the use of single-winner and

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread Juho Laatu
On 9.2.2012, at 17.21, David L Wetzell wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk To: EM list election-methods@lists.electorama.com Cc: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:29:02 +0200 Subject: Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism. On 8.2.2012, at 16.18

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread Juho Laatu
As I earlier wrote, I think the US has many options on how to go forward with the reform. The presidential election is maybe the most interetsting one. If one uses Condorcet, that means that the president may come from a minor party or be independent. Let's say that there is an independent

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread James Gilmour
Juho LaatuSent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:29 PM I think I agree when I say that the first decision (in the USA) is whether to make the current two-party system work better or whether to aim at a multi-party system. Juho Don't you think you might just be starting in the wrong

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread James Gilmour
Juho LaatuSent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:07 PM As I earlier wrote, I think the US has many options on how to go forward with the reform. The presidential election is maybe the most interesting one. Juho This may be the most interesting election, but as it is almost certainly the

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread Juho Laatu
On 10.2.2012, at 2.02, James Gilmour wrote: Juho LaatuSent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:29 PM I think I agree when I say that the first decision (in the USA) is whether to make the current two-party system work better or whether to aim at a multi-party system. Juho Don't you

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-09 Thread Juho Laatu
On 10.2.2012, at 2.17, James Gilmour wrote: Juho LaatuSent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:07 PM As I earlier wrote, I think the US has many options on how to go forward with the reform. The presidential election is maybe the most interesting one. Juho This may be the most

Re: [EM] Utilitarianism and Perfectionism.

2012-02-08 Thread Juho Laatu
On 8.2.2012, at 16.18, David L Wetzell wrote: ... At any rate, this is why I've argued that ascertaining the best single-winner election rule is nowhere near as important as pitching the importance of mixing the use of single-winner and multi-winner election rules, with the latter