2011/9/22 James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.uk
Jameson Quinn Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:00 AM
If I'm right, the claim is that voters, and especially
politicians, are intuitively concerned with the possibility
of someone winning with broad but shallow support. In
Approval,
2011/9/22 Peter Zbornik pzbor...@gmail.com
Dear all,
I agree with James, and that was why I proposed that election reform
took the path through added election rounds.
Reform of FPTP would thus add a second election round where the
Condorcet winner would meet the FPTP winner. Who in the UK
Hi Jameson,
I think the multiple round system (as described in my previous email
today and several others) might be a the best way to get combined
support for one single method on this list.
If we skip the issues about political support for the method, I think
a good method that everyone
Hi Jameson,
I think the best reform proposal would be FPTP and the other method
in a two round system.
This is certainly not complex and run-off elections are held
everywhere in Europe, except for some larger islands of the coast of
France :o).
The disadvantage of introducing a new method is,
2011/9/22 robert bristow-johnson r...@audioimagination.com
On 9/22/11 12:40 PM, James Gilmour wrote:
I cannot comment on the quoted remark (cut) that prompted your post and I
know nothing at all about the activities of anyone at FairVote, but you have
hit on a real problem in practical
2011/9/22 Peter Zbornik pzbor...@gmail.com
Hi Jameson,
I think the best reform proposal would be FPTP and the other method
in a two round system.
This is certainly not complex and run-off elections are held
everywhere in Europe, except for some larger islands of the coast of
France :o).
Hi Jameson,
Well i think the argument that two-rounds systems are silly and
complex, can be countered with the fact that it is used all throughout
Europe and elsewhere. I woud say runoff elections are the standard way
of conducting single member elections. Even though I have no data for
this
2011/9/22 Peter Zbornik pzbor...@gmail.com
Hi Jameson,
Well i think the argument that two-rounds systems are silly and
complex, can be countered ...
I'm going to cut in right there. The problem is, you don't always get a
chance to counter your opponent's arguments. If anti-reformers can run
Many people on this list agree that Condorcet methods are good methods. But
they are not necessarily good for whatever needs. Using them in single-seat
districts of a two-party system might not be a good idea. We might end up
having majority of the representatives from a small centrist party.
Jameson Quinn Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:38 PM
And while I don't take everything Richie says at face value,
he does have more experience than basically anyone else at
promoting voting reform, so it would be unwise to entirely
ignore his point of view. I believe that he honestly
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