[EM] Keeping elections simple

2001-04-14 Thread Martin Harper
Just a thought... It seems that most countries throughout the world try and keep their elections nice and simple, by reducing the numbers of candidates running. In the UK they charge people for losing their deposit, in other places they require a minimum of X% of the popular vote to get any

Re: [EM] nominations

2001-04-14 Thread Richard Moore
Whether or not they do well, having them on the list means that there will be a broader range of voter utilities which (in my opinion) makes the contest more interesting. So I'll play the devil's advocate and nominate all three of them. Richard MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: Richard wrote:

RE: Keeping elections simple

2001-04-14 Thread DEMOREP1
Mr. Harper wrote in part- The question is - is it better to reduce the number of candidates standing by charging candidates for standing, or by having a method which isn't fully independant from vote splitting problems? What should be aimed for in terms of numbers of frivolous and serious

Re: Some brief campaign argument

2001-04-14 Thread DEMOREP1
Ranking of pairs (or anything else) does NOT show any *absolute* support (on a plus 100 percent to minus 100 percent scale). There are at least 3 tables floating around in multiple choice elections-- 1. Absolute Scale Table (100 percent to minus 100 percent) (with variants such as limited

Re: [EM] Duncan Black on Condorcet

2001-04-14 Thread Blake Cretney
Dear Markus, Before I comment on Duncan Black, I'll give an interesting quote from Condorcet that is relevant to the current subject. He's advocating the Condorcet criterion (though not in name). He gives an example of three candidates, where C pairwise beats the other two, and B pairwise

[EM] Absolute Voting Scale

2001-04-14 Thread DEMOREP1
Give a scale vote to each choice. Example- Max = 100, Min = 0 A 30 B 0 C 10 D 100 E 20 F 99 The above in reality might become A 3 B 0 C 1 D 100 E 2 F 99 There might be a requirement that no 2 choices get the same scale vote -- to prevent ALL 100 or 0 votes - even among 2 or more

[EM] Nothing much

2001-04-14 Thread Tony Simmons
From: Craig Carey [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 2001-04-12 19:09 +0100 Thursday, Martin Harper wrote: [snip] What have I missed? Something important clearly... I decline to answer. I am quitting. Thank you. This list has subscribers that appear to be very stupid.

[EM] None-of-the-above

2001-04-14 Thread Anthony Simmons
From: Tom Ruen Subject: Re: [EM] 3 choices/5 voters Example I like the idea of including a None-of-the Above choice (explicit or implicit) and if this "choice" wins the election, then all the candidates are discarded and a new election must be held with all new candidates! This is the

[EM] Getting rid of primary

2001-04-14 Thread Tony Simmons
From: MIKE OSSIPOFF Subject: [EM] no primary Anthony wrote: In other words, two round runoff. No more primary. Not that big a change. I reply: Getting rid of the primary and switching from Plurality to Runoff are big changes. [...] You left out some things. The plan that was

[EM] Campaign issue: wv vs m

2001-04-14 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Rob wrote: But when it comes to margins vs. winning-votes (also known as votes-against or defeat-support), I don't think strategy turns out to be an issue, unfortunately, because winning-votes doesn't actually get around the problem. Under winning-votes, a voter can order sincere ties in