[Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Geary recipe

2013-06-18 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I'm not sure who maintains Geary recipe these days (probably Rico), so I'm forwarding this to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jim Nelson j...@yorba.org Date: 2013/6/18 Subject: Geary recipe To: Sergey \Shnatsel\ Davidoff shnat...@gmail.com Hello, Just to let you know,

[Elementary-dev-community] Groping window

2012-10-27 Thread Сергей
Hello. I think, grouping window's could be useful feature. For example, if you frequently switching between 2 or 3 windows (IDE, browser, terminal) it's may be more productive with grouping. You can switch more faster and save focus on work. Current alt+tab diverts our attention. Same

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] New plank concept

2012-10-25 Thread Сергей
Some fixes: first screenshot it's state, when windows are maximize or cover dock. if windows don't cover dock, dock look like on 4 screenshot(with icons). -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

[Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Need to redesign some icons in Elementary icon theme

2012-07-21 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I guess this belongs to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Tran Chau Thong tchauth...@gmail.com Date: 2012/7/21 Subject: Need to redesign some icons in Elementary icon theme To: sebastianpo...@gmail.com Cc: shnat...@gmail.com, scholli...@yahoo.de Dear all, I am a user of

[Elementary-dev-community] Managing technical debt

2012-07-04 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Hey guys, Since we're getting closer to release, we'll inevitably end up cutting back on some architectural improvements, use some temporary hackish solutions or just don't merge some invasive fixes because it's too late in the cycle. As you probably know, this is called technical debt and it's

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] I'm Quitting: we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
We are elementary. Replace we in every one of those instances with elementary and perhaps it's more clear. Last time I checked nobody knew what elementary was. When Dan was asked this by Cassidy back in 2010 AFAIR, it was a philosophy. So, no, s/we/elementary/ doesn't make things any more

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] I'm Quitting: we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
2012/7/4 Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org: Replace we with the elementary community then. I think it was pretty clear what he meant. Also works with Scott's examples. And using a passive impersonal construction (e.g. nobody is getting paid...) also works. Cool! Still, Scott makes a valid

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] I'm Quitting: we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Now to you Sergey, I realize you are very passionate about what you do, but sometimes you are too passionate about it as well. Cool down, don't treaten with you leaving before having a open discussion with everyone, not just one person(in this case Dan). Because that surely pissed off the

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] I'm Quitting: we both overreacted

2012-06-26 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I may have not made it perfectly clear, but I'm not discussing the decision here. The way the decision was made is what I have a problem with. I appreciate that you consulted Canonical and Yorba, but at the same time you didn't consult your very own developers. A decision that affects developers

[Elementary-dev-community] I'm Quitting: we both overreacted

2012-06-25 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Yesterday I announced in #elementary-dev and #elementary-web that I'm quitting the project. Rumors spread fast and they're usually more scary than truth is, so I'm writing this to clarify what happened, what caused me to do that and if I'm really quitting. *What happened* I'm attaching the

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] UX and OK Buttons

2012-06-17 Thread Сергей Давыдов
That's what our HIG suggests. It's good to stumble upon good conventions we already employ :) In fact we're several steps ahead: http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/ui-toolkit-elements/windows/dialogs I disagree with doing it the right way but neglecting platform consistency

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] USC Technical Requirements

2012-06-15 Thread Сергей Давыдов
There requirements are... where did you get them anyway? I bet this is as bull as the recommendation to use GTK2 and Python2 for apps targeting Ubuntu. Don't believe a word at developer.ubuntu.com Anyway, what we should be concerned about is getting our apps into Debian. It would both make our

[Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Is Synapse Launcher Dead ?

2012-05-01 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I guess this belongs to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Emre Ener ihatemembersh...@gmail.com Date: 2012/4/30 Subject: Is Synapse Launcher Dead ? To: victoredua...@gmail.com, davidrafago...@gmail.com, shnat...@gmail.com, lallenl...@gmail.com, c...@ssidyjam.es,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Nachricht über Ihr Google-Profil: German Translation team discussion

2012-04-28 Thread Сергей
As far as I can tell from my Ubuntu translation experience, translation teams usually have extensive translation guidelines, which in turn use GNOME conventions as a base (see http://live.gnome.org/de/Uebersetzung ) There are also Launchpad translation guidelines for some languages (see

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Dexter...

2012-04-27 Thread Сергей
I am wondering if we should scrap Dexter and just ship gnome-contacts, perhaps with a patch or 2 to make the toolbar match ours. Well, that's what was originally intended... AFAIR some parts of GNOME Contacts were screwed (e.g. autotools-based build system didn't work and it was impossible

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Question #193884 : Questions : Marlin

2012-04-27 Thread Сергей
This could actually be a good thing because we could have Marlin back with Contractor and Granite and everything. Well, we already have it with Contractor in elementary daily PPA, thanks to Tom Beckmann. He also investigated porting it back to Granite. it doesn't handle networks well Should

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Should we use Burg insted of Grub?

2012-04-23 Thread Сергей
2012/4/23 Ivo Nunes netherbl...@gmail.com Doesn't BURG break plymouth? It does, but only in certain cases which should not be observed on latest Ubuntu (AFAIK and in theory, though). And Google knows some workarounds, too. Not to mention Plymouth has only one real use case by now and the best

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 5 ideas that every desktop OS should borrow

2012-04-16 Thread Сергей
Hi Cassidy, thanks for your reply! Yeah, priority by focus is a great idea. And so simple. Ingenious things are always simple :D I have a proof-of-concept implementation, but it conflicts with prioritizing apps by default with ulatencyd because it sets priority to higher-than-normal value on

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Current state of Slingshot

2012-04-13 Thread Сергей
Cairo animations don't work well even on med-end machines, and the Clutter branch simply doesn't havwe any animations and switches pages instantly if no hardware acceleration is available. Or so I was told - I haven't tested that scenario myself because ubuntu currently defaults to using the

[Elementary-dev-community] Current state of Slingshot

2012-04-12 Thread Сергей
Hello everyone, Those of us who test daily builds regularly probably remember xapantu's clutter-based Slingshot; it was merged to trunk branch and was available from daily PPA for a while, but then it was reverted to the old Cairo-based version because it introduced new bugs that made Slingshot

[Elementary-dev-community] Obtaining backtrace

2012-04-12 Thread Сергей
Hello again, I got kinda tired of explaining people how to obtain a backtrace over and over, and the relevant page in ubuntu wiki is just too generic and bloated, so I made a screencast - well, consolecast, to be precise. Here it is: http://shelr.tv/records/4f86ffc0966080796f18 Might be

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Building Granite

2012-04-07 Thread Сергей
Looks like you need newer Glib (but it's not my area of expertise, so I may be mistaken), and no, it's never safe to upgrade Glib. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Daily Builds

2012-04-05 Thread Сергей
Yes, it's a known bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/972940). Try metacity --replace in terminal, it should fix that. If you want Compiz, run sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager and import the Pantheon profile (see archives of this mailing list for instructuions). I'm

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Dynamic Notebook and building

2012-04-05 Thread Сергей
Sounds like you don't have the latest Granite development files installed. DynamicNotebook was introduced after 0.1 release. 2012/4/4, David Gomes davidrafago...@gmail.com: Trying to build pantheon-terminal-new, and I get this:

[Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
Hey guys, Cassidy did a great job putting together a draft of Compiz profile for Luna and testing it on a variety of hardware; however, it could really use a wider testing - on more hardware and in more use cases. While I'm figuring out how to package it, please test it for a few days in Pantheon

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
Oh, I forgot to explain how to import. Here's how: 1) Install CompizConfig Settings Manager ($ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager) 2) Click Preferences at the bottom of the sidebar 3) Under Profile header click Import button and select the file you grabbed from the bug report --

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
This one? https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-design/+junk/compizprofile -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help :

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
Hmm, the version attached to the bug report is much better. Stuff got lots on multiple imports/exports? Cassidy, looks like you'll have to review wthe diffs and merge useful parts back to your file... -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to :

[Elementary-dev-community] pantheon-wallpaper won't make it

2012-03-29 Thread Сергей
Hello everybody, it's hard to admit it, but pantheon-wallpaper probably won't make it for Luna. It has dreadful bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-wallpaper/+bug/814948 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-wallpaper/+bug/886633 and no active maintainer. Moreover, I think it's no

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] What website should we use?

2012-03-27 Thread Сергей
When/if we implement the new Discover pages in the website, you can link to the Discover page of your application in the website, which will in turn link to Launchpad project. Until then, IMHO using LP project is better. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list:

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Changing the name of Pantheon Terminal

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей
2012/3/26 Cassidy James c...@ssidyjam.es: I think it's important that it be referred to as Terminal on the desktop itself, and Pantheon Terminal simply describes that it was designed for our DE. It's similar to how there's GNOME Terminal, GNOME Calculator, etc. when they're just referred to as

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Changing the name of Pantheon Terminal

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей
I beleive branding it as Panther is more likely to get it some market share outside Pantheon. I'm not sure if it's desired or not. I support using Web browser and Mail insted of Midori and Postler (or Geary or whatever the merged app is called now), but I don't think it should go that far. As I

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About dialog Copyright style

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей Давыдов
IMHO neither. Mentioning the GPL is a good idea, but Scratch exposes the negative side of it. I'd rather use something like You are free to redistribute this application under the terms of GNU General Public Licence version 3 (link) or higher... Uh, I mean, ask Cassidy for some honeyed words.--

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About dialog Copyright style

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Oh btw, that screenie shows a bug in egtk.-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About dialog Copyright style

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей
Copyright (c) without any GPL notices feels proprietary. Come on, I'm free to share this app, let the about stand out a bit with that fact! -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary GTK theme 3.0

2012-03-24 Thread Сергей
My previous attempts to set it via dconf failed, but GNOME Tweak Tool and re-login worked. Dogfooding now (om nom nom). Bugs so far: https://bugs.launchpad.net/egtk/+bug/963660, https://bugs.launchpad.net/egtk/+bug/964086. Hope the second one is a duplicate and I'm not the first to report this.

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Last news from Maya

2012-03-22 Thread Сергей
Amazing work guys! I've checked it out at it a while ago, and I'll test again ASAP! By the way, your milestones look very organized, props and kudos for that! 0.1 Patrick Star is your initial release milestone, right? Could you rename it to luna-beta1 Patrick Star so the work items can be tracked

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OS daily builds are finally set up

2012-03-13 Thread Сергей
A quick update / important notice: we've reclaimed our old Sourceforge project, and the builds are now located at https://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/ Today's build is already uploaded. Let's see if zsync works for this new location! -- shnatsel -- Mailing list:

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Zeitgeist Privacy Pane

2012-03-11 Thread Сергей
1) When creating the switchboard plug, the same codebase, a separate file can be added which uses this VBox to populate the plug 2) Then the build system needs to be altered to build this plug optionally since alm is used in many other environments too If someone from elementary team can

[Elementary-dev-community] OS daily builds are finally set up

2012-03-11 Thread Сергей
Hey guys, Just wanted to let you know that we have finally set up daily builds of elementary OS. Right now the process is not really automated, it's just me building an image and uploading it manually. I'll be building only i386 images for now because our bugs are extremely unlikely to be

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OS daily builds are finally set up

2012-03-11 Thread Сергей
Even better: 2) $ md5sum -c downloaded.iso.md5 This will automatically check integrity and report OK if correct. Wow, thanks, I wasn't aware of that! -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Software Center

2012-02-21 Thread Сергей
2012/2/21 Sergio Spinatelli spinatelli.ser...@gmail.com Cool! Is there already a LP page to check out? :) Sergio, I beleive it's https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-centerproject, https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-software-center-team/lubuntu-software-center/vala-portbranch. Stephen,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer guide

2012-02-21 Thread Сергей
Yeah, I'm pretty sure text-bound comments will work better for bug reports. However, having a dedicated work item tracker also sounds good - not every task can be bound to a specific piece of text. Right now we have just one blueprint for the whole doc, I'm afraid it won't be effective enough.

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer guide

2012-02-21 Thread Сергей
Regarding addressing some items first... I agree that there are some critical things to be addressed, but there will always be room for improvement, and polishing some unused doc over and over to suit some hypothetical concerns is really, really boring. I suggest we release a beta so we can get

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Building Granite on Arch

2012-02-19 Thread Сергей
Looks like it uses an deprecated API and doesn't manifest requiring some pkg-config package for it. That was the reason for notorious Glib build failures on Precise: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wingpanel/+bug/912224 (the bug is marked invalid because it's Vala's fault, not ours). -- shnatsel --

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Maya starts up and flashes, hard to close.

2012-02-15 Thread Сергей
Hey Brendan, I'm forwarding your message to our development mailing list. People in there should be able to help you out. However, Maya probably will not be a goal for Luna, and considering how close the feature freeze is, most likely there always will be higher priority goals. P.S. Please use

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Granite] 0.1

2012-02-11 Thread Сергей
hum... somebody poke MPT? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary UX and design team

2012-01-16 Thread Сергей
Because the current one is not open. An open team could get more designers involved and accustomed with our vision/hig/whatever. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Countdown Widget

2012-01-10 Thread Сергей
Circular progressbars is a rather old idea, it was already proposed for GTK I don't think it's a good idea to adopt it as a widget, though. I can't see why would you want a countdown for deleting multiple files or closing a browser full of tabs. Eidete seems to be fine with its current countdown,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Calendar application in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-01-05 Thread Сергей
Last time I checked the backend was complete, except creating calendars in evolution-data-server. This operation is performed only once, on first startup, so at the moment maya won't work until evolution is launched at least once. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list:

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Slingshot old version

2011-12-30 Thread Сергей
They seem to be either aware of existence of a newer version, either intentionally providing a malformed installer, or completely unaware of anything at all. Providing only an i386 .deb in some dropbox is weird at least. Press team actually consists of 1 person and they seem to be very busy IRL;

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design Team

2011-12-27 Thread Сергей
Yeah, I agree. You should subscribe the team, not assign it, though. Added to meeting agenda. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More

[Elementary-dev-community] Icons 3.0

2011-12-26 Thread Сергей
3.0 branch is now available from the daily ppahttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/+archive/daily . The packaginghttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/elementaryicons/deb-packaging-3.0is a bit ugly, but should do until we get 3.0 branch into Ubuntu. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list:

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Icons 3.0

2011-12-22 Thread Сергей
To be honest, I'm totally swamped IRL, so the update probably won't land in the PPA till Saturday. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] DConf Editor

2011-12-11 Thread Сергей
Well, it depends on if we need it or not. If it will be needed for some vital customizations, like in http://elementaryos.org/docs/customizing, then probably yes. Otherwise it's just sudo apt-get away from people who know about its existence. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list:

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer forum meetings

2011-12-02 Thread Сергей
Last time I checked Cassidy was supposed to do that... post a new article or something... 2011/12/3 Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org: Lucas, do you think you can either update the current post or create a new one with the meeting time and a link to the agenda? Thanks! Best Regards,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer forum meetings

2011-11-29 Thread Сергей
Keep in mind that it cannot overlap with the council meeting, which is Saturdays at 3:30PM EST (8:30PM UTC). Back when I used to run a project, the only suitable time for people from both Europe and America we could figure out was 7:00PM UTC. I guess 6:30PM UTC should work for us. -- shnatsel

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] What it takes to be a dev

2011-11-19 Thread Сергей
We have http://elementaryos.org/docs/developer-guide in progress for like ages. Pages that still need work: http://elementaryos.org/docs/developer-guide/introduction/elementary-developer-sdk http://elementaryos.org/docs/developer-guide/hello-world/revision-control