Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-15 Thread Craig 
+1
On Jul 13, 2013 2:55 PM, "Dane Henson"  wrote:

> One does not simply fork launchpad.
> On Jul 13, 2013 2:52 PM, "Cassidy James"  wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Launchpad is technically open source, but it's designed to be used only
>> on Canonical's infrastructure and they aren't interested in making it run
>> elsewhere. It's open source so that people can help Canonical out, not so
>> people can set up their own instances.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Cassidy James
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Chris Timberlake 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Fabian,
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't launchpad open source? There's been
>> much talk about Launchpad mock-ups and redesigns, etc. Maybe you could
>> simply fork launchpad as opposed to creating a replacement?
>>
>> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-is-now-open-source
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fabian Thoma wrote:
>>
>>> So I'm gonna enter that conversation here, if we want to have automated
>>> builds for debian based systems not on Launchpad we really need the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>1. Hardware (we already got a virtual server capable of building the
>>>daily isos, so it should be able to handle this, if needed we can also go
>>>dedicated)
>>>2. a build daemon, which is buildd that debian uses for it's build
>>>machines (we can use that 1 to 1 like launchpad)
>>>3. a system managing builds and versions (which I'd prefer to build
>>>or use something highly flexible and adapt)
>>>4. a repo server that hosts the packages and can support high
>>>traffic (that's a matter of renting it really)
>>>
>>> I don't see any issue in these things, especially the hardware and build
>>> based stuff. Building something to manage the builds and versions should
>>> not be a big deal either, but the real question has to be if we want to go
>>> and diy a Launchpad replacement or use something finished and integrate the
>>> build part into it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
 what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
> infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?
>

 A lot of things I'm afraid. Off the top of my head, the list is as
 follows:

1. hardware
2. pbuilder configuration (mostly done)
3. some piece of software to accept dput uploads (should exist, but
not found yet)
4. some piece of software to create and maintain the repository
(should exist, but not found yet)
5. lots of integration scripts to write and secondary systems to
set up (mailer to report failed builds, etc)
6. some UI to be able to make sense of all that and manage the
setup (probably doesn't exist)

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>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-13 Thread Dane Henson 
One does not simply fork launchpad.
On Jul 13, 2013 2:52 PM, "Cassidy James"  wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Launchpad is technically open source, but it's designed to be used only on
> Canonical's infrastructure and they aren't interested in making it run
> elsewhere. It's open source so that people can help Canonical out, not so
> people can set up their own instances.
>
> Regards,
> Cassidy James
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Chris Timberlake 
> wrote:
>
> Fabian,
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't launchpad open source? There's been much
> talk about Launchpad mock-ups and redesigns, etc. Maybe you could simply
> fork launchpad as opposed to creating a replacement?
>
> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-is-now-open-source
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fabian Thoma wrote:
>
>> So I'm gonna enter that conversation here, if we want to have automated
>> builds for debian based systems not on Launchpad we really need the
>> following:
>>
>>1. Hardware (we already got a virtual server capable of building the
>>daily isos, so it should be able to handle this, if needed we can also go
>>dedicated)
>>2. a build daemon, which is buildd that debian uses for it's build
>>machines (we can use that 1 to 1 like launchpad)
>>3. a system managing builds and versions (which I'd prefer to build
>>or use something highly flexible and adapt)
>>4. a repo server that hosts the packages and can support high traffic
>>(that's a matter of renting it really)
>>
>> I don't see any issue in these things, especially the hardware and build
>> based stuff. Building something to manage the builds and versions should
>> not be a big deal either, but the real question has to be if we want to go
>> and diy a Launchpad replacement or use something finished and integrate the
>> build part into it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
 infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?

>>>
>>> A lot of things I'm afraid. Off the top of my head, the list is as
>>> follows:
>>>
>>>1. hardware
>>>2. pbuilder configuration (mostly done)
>>>3. some piece of software to accept dput uploads (should exist, but
>>>not found yet)
>>>4. some piece of software to create and maintain the repository
>>>(should exist, but not found yet)
>>>5. lots of integration scripts to write and secondary systems to set
>>>up (mailer to report failed builds, etc)
>>>6. some UI to be able to make sense of all that and manage the setup
>>>(probably doesn't exist)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
>>> OS architect @ elementary
>>>
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>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-13 Thread Cassidy James 

Chris,

Launchpad is technically open source, but it's designed to be used only 
on Canonical's infrastructure and they aren't interested in making it 
run elsewhere. It's open source so that people can help Canonical out, 
not so people can set up their own instances.


Regards,
Cassidy James

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Chris Timberlake  
wrote:

Fabian,

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't launchpad open source? There's been 
much talk about Launchpad mock-ups and redesigns, etc. Maybe you 
could simply fork launchpad as opposed to creating a replacement?


http://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-is-now-open-source


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fabian Thoma 
 wrote:
So I'm gonna enter that conversation here, if we want to have 
automated builds for debian based systems not on Launchpad we really 
need the following:
Hardware (we already got a virtual server capable of building the 
daily isos, so it should be able to handle this, if needed we can 
also go dedicated)
a build daemon, which is buildd that debian uses for it's build 
machines (we can use that 1 to 1 like launchpad)
a system managing builds and versions (which I'd prefer to build or 
use something highly flexible and adapt)
a repo server that hosts the packages and can support high traffic 
(that's a matter of renting it really)
I don't see any issue in these things, especially the hardware and 
build based stuff. Building something to manage the builds and 
versions should not be a big deal either, but the real question has 
to be if we want to go and diy a Launchpad replacement or use 
something finished and integrate the build part into it.



On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
 wrote:
what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build 
infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue? 



A lot of things I'm afraid. Off the top of my head, the list is as 
follows:

hardware
pbuilder configuration (mostly done)
some piece of software to accept dput uploads (should exist, but 
not found yet)
some piece of software to create and maintain the repository 
(should exist, but not found yet)
lots of integration scripts to write and secondary systems to set 
up (mailer to report failed builds, etc)
some UI to be able to make sense of all that and manage the setup 
(probably doesn't exist)

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-13 Thread Chris Timberlake 
Fabian,

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't launchpad open source? There's been much
talk about Launchpad mock-ups and redesigns, etc. Maybe you could simply
fork launchpad as opposed to creating a replacement?

http://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-is-now-open-source


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fabian Thoma wrote:

> So I'm gonna enter that conversation here, if we want to have automated
> builds for debian based systems not on Launchpad we really need the
> following:
>
>1. Hardware (we already got a virtual server capable of building the
>daily isos, so it should be able to handle this, if needed we can also go
>dedicated)
>2. a build daemon, which is buildd that debian uses for it's build
>machines (we can use that 1 to 1 like launchpad)
>3. a system managing builds and versions (which I'd prefer to build or
>use something highly flexible and adapt)
>4. a repo server that hosts the packages and can support high traffic
>(that's a matter of renting it really)
>
> I don't see any issue in these things, especially the hardware and build
> based stuff. Building something to manage the builds and versions should
> not be a big deal either, but the real question has to be if we want to go
> and diy a Launchpad replacement or use something finished and integrate the
> build part into it.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
>>> infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?
>>>
>>
>> A lot of things I'm afraid. Off the top of my head, the list is as
>> follows:
>>
>>1. hardware
>>2. pbuilder configuration (mostly done)
>>3. some piece of software to accept dput uploads (should exist, but
>>not found yet)
>>4. some piece of software to create and maintain the repository
>>(should exist, but not found yet)
>>5. lots of integration scripts to write and secondary systems to set
>>up (mailer to report failed builds, etc)
>>6. some UI to be able to make sense of all that and manage the setup
>>(probably doesn't exist)
>>
>> --
>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
>> OS architect @ elementary
>>
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>>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-10 Thread cameron 
Maybe the LMDE, SolydXK, and/or Crunchbang teams should be contacted to 
see what they are using. Additionally, there are collaboration 
opportunities there.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff 
 wrote:
what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build 
infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue? 



A lot of things I'm afraid. Off the top of my head, the list is as 
follows:

hardware
pbuilder configuration (mostly done)
some piece of software to accept dput uploads (should exist, but not 
found yet)
some piece of software to create and maintain the repository (should 
exist, but not found yet)
lots of integration scripts to write and secondary systems to set up 
(mailer to report failed builds, etc)
some UI to be able to make sense of all that and manage the setup 
(probably doesn't exist)

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-10 Thread Fabian Thoma 
So I'm gonna enter that conversation here, if we want to have automated
builds for debian based systems not on Launchpad we really need the
following:

   1. Hardware (we already got a virtual server capable of building the
   daily isos, so it should be able to handle this, if needed we can also go
   dedicated)
   2. a build daemon, which is buildd that debian uses for it's build
   machines (we can use that 1 to 1 like launchpad)
   3. a system managing builds and versions (which I'd prefer to build or
   use something highly flexible and adapt)
   4. a repo server that hosts the packages and can support high traffic
   (that's a matter of renting it really)

I don't see any issue in these things, especially the hardware and build
based stuff. Building something to manage the builds and versions should
not be a big deal either, but the real question has to be if we want to go
and diy a Launchpad replacement or use something finished and integrate the
build part into it.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <
[email protected]> wrote:

> what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
>> infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?
>>
>
> A lot of things I'm afraid. Off the top of my head, the list is as follows:
>
>1. hardware
>2. pbuilder configuration (mostly done)
>3. some piece of software to accept dput uploads (should exist, but
>not found yet)
>4. some piece of software to create and maintain the repository
>(should exist, but not found yet)
>5. lots of integration scripts to write and secondary systems to set
>up (mailer to report failed builds, etc)
>6. some UI to be able to make sense of all that and manage the setup
>(probably doesn't exist)
>
> --
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> OS architect @ elementary
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-10 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
>
> what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
> infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?
>

A lot of things I'm afraid. Off the top of my head, the list is as follows:

   1. hardware
   2. pbuilder configuration (mostly done)
   3. some piece of software to accept dput uploads (should exist, but not
   found yet)
   4. some piece of software to create and maintain the repository (should
   exist, but not found yet)
   5. lots of integration scripts to write and secondary systems to set up
   (mailer to report failed builds, etc)
   6. some UI to be able to make sense of all that and manage the setup
   (probably doesn't exist)

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-10 Thread Nikos Vasilakis 
Ah, sorry, I did not mean to press you, just ask as a way to identify were
help is needed.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Cody Garver  wrote:

> I'm working on it, I'd like to have it deployed by 14.04 but no promises.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Nikos Vasilakis wrote:
>
>> Hey Cody,
>>
>> what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
>> infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nikos
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Cody Garver wrote:
>>
>>> Debian builds are possible when we get our own repo and automated
>>> build infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Manish Sinha 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello everyone, I have thought, researched a lot before shooting this
>>> > mail. It is a proposal to make elementary a great OS, even better than
>>> > it is currently at the same time making sure the proposals are sane,
>>> > achievable and realistic.
>>> >
>>> > Older packages when released
>>> > -
>>> > At the moment luna is based on precise. It is a good thing because
>>> > Precise is LTS and supported for 5 years, but at the end of the day
>>> > when luna is released, it is based on 1.5 years old snapshot of ubuntu
>>> > plus some updates.
>>> >
>>> > Why not base next elementary on say debian testing or unstable. Maybe
>>> > unstable is a bit too unstable, but testing should be fine. I am still
>>> > not sure if GNOME would be vanilla or not, but atleast it won't be
>>> > containing a lot of patches and radically different components than
>>> > GNOME.
>>> >
>>> > This is just a suggestion. I would like to hear from people who
>>> > maintain the archives and system architects. They would be knowing
>>> > what issues can be faced in case elementary moves away from ubuntu or
>>> > what can be even gained.
>>> >
>>> > -
>>> > Manish
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>
>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-10 Thread Cody Garver 
I'm working on it, I'd like to have it deployed by 14.04 but no promises.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Nikos Vasilakis wrote:

> Hey Cody,
>
> what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
> infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?
>
> Cheers,
> Nikos
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Cody Garver wrote:
>
>> Debian builds are possible when we get our own repo and automated
>> build infrastructure.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Manish Sinha  wrote:
>>
>> > Hello everyone, I have thought, researched a lot before shooting this
>> > mail. It is a proposal to make elementary a great OS, even better than
>> > it is currently at the same time making sure the proposals are sane,
>> > achievable and realistic.
>> >
>> > Older packages when released
>> > -
>> > At the moment luna is based on precise. It is a good thing because
>> > Precise is LTS and supported for 5 years, but at the end of the day
>> > when luna is released, it is based on 1.5 years old snapshot of ubuntu
>> > plus some updates.
>> >
>> > Why not base next elementary on say debian testing or unstable. Maybe
>> > unstable is a bit too unstable, but testing should be fine. I am still
>> > not sure if GNOME would be vanilla or not, but atleast it won't be
>> > containing a lot of patches and radically different components than
>> > GNOME.
>> >
>> > This is just a suggestion. I would like to hear from people who
>> > maintain the archives and system architects. They would be knowing
>> > what issues can be faced in case elementary moves away from ubuntu or
>> > what can be even gained.
>> >
>> > -
>> > Manish
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Post to : [email protected]
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-09 Thread Nikos Vasilakis 
Hey Cody,

what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build
infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue?

Cheers,
Nikos


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Cody Garver  wrote:

> Debian builds are possible when we get our own repo and automated
> build infrastructure.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Manish Sinha  wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone, I have thought, researched a lot before shooting this
> > mail. It is a proposal to make elementary a great OS, even better than
> > it is currently at the same time making sure the proposals are sane,
> > achievable and realistic.
> >
> > Older packages when released
> > -
> > At the moment luna is based on precise. It is a good thing because
> > Precise is LTS and supported for 5 years, but at the end of the day
> > when luna is released, it is based on 1.5 years old snapshot of ubuntu
> > plus some updates.
> >
> > Why not base next elementary on say debian testing or unstable. Maybe
> > unstable is a bit too unstable, but testing should be fine. I am still
> > not sure if GNOME would be vanilla or not, but atleast it won't be
> > containing a lot of patches and radically different components than
> > GNOME.
> >
> > This is just a suggestion. I would like to hear from people who
> > maintain the archives and system architects. They would be knowing
> > what issues can be faced in case elementary moves away from ubuntu or
> > what can be even gained.
> >
> > -
> > Manish
> >
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software

2013-07-09 Thread Cody Garver 
Debian builds are possible when we get our own repo and automated
build infrastructure.

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On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Manish Sinha  wrote:

> Hello everyone, I have thought, researched a lot before shooting this
> mail. It is a proposal to make elementary a great OS, even better than
> it is currently at the same time making sure the proposals are sane,
> achievable and realistic.
>
> Older packages when released
> -
> At the moment luna is based on precise. It is a good thing because
> Precise is LTS and supported for 5 years, but at the end of the day
> when luna is released, it is based on 1.5 years old snapshot of ubuntu
> plus some updates.
>
> Why not base next elementary on say debian testing or unstable. Maybe
> unstable is a bit too unstable, but testing should be fine. I am still
> not sure if GNOME would be vanilla or not, but atleast it won't be
> containing a lot of patches and radically different components than
> GNOME.
>
> This is just a suggestion. I would like to hear from people who
> maintain the archives and system architects. They would be knowing
> what issues can be faced in case elementary moves away from ubuntu or
> what can be even gained.
>
> -
> Manish
>
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