Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-03 Thread Chong Yidong
> BTW, longlines.el seems to be fairly widely used; is there a reason it > hasn't been added to the Emacs distribution? The main reason is the feature freeze. RMS contacted me about putting it into Emacs a couple months back, and my guess is that it will go in after this release. My copyright assi

support of Japanese in makeinfo

2005-03-03 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
Hello, I was encouraged by Richard Stallman and send this message. I'm participating in the development of some Emacs Lisp softwares and have the chance to write the TexInfo manuals in Japanese. Since the makeinfo command doesn't support Japanese text, I always put the rule which uses the Emacs

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-03 Thread Nick Roberts
> I gather the documentation contradicts this position. > > No, it doesn't. That was a misunderstanding. > > In Emacs, the approach we use is that all changes are listed in > ChangeLog. That's interesting because the entry below (Types of Log File) that you wrote (RMS)

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-03 Thread Miles Bader
BTW, longlines.el seems to be fairly widely used; is there a reason it hasn't been added to the Emacs distribution? -Miles ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-03 Thread Miles Bader
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:41:39 + (UTC), Robert J. Chassell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I gather the documentation contradicts this position. > > No, it doesn't. That was a misunderstanding. > > In Emacs, the approach we use is that all changes are listed in > ChangeLog. >

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Robert Chassell wrote: Which ChangeLog? Both. My hunch is that the current documentation is different than you thought and that the changed documentation says what you mean. I do not believe so. Richard said: The Emacs manual describes multiple approaches for maintaining a proj

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-03 Thread Chong Yidong
> C-x C-s inserts a newline at the end of the file, but in the buffer that > newline is just a nuisance. If you call end-of-buffer you go past the > newline and you have to be careful to do C-b, or you are editing at the > wrong place... Because the newline is soft, if you are careless and start >

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-03 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Chong Yidong wrote: Both of the newline ends the last line in a paragraph, as well as the newline on the following blank line, are hard. I believe that you are right on that one. However, there is another way to view things. I believe that the newline inserted automatically at the end

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-03 Thread Robert J. Chassell
I gather the documentation contradicts this position. No, it doesn't. That was a misunderstanding. In Emacs, the approach we use is that all changes are listed in ChangeLog. Which ChangeLog? The Emacs CVS offers two ChangeLogs and in (emacs)Types of Log File the Emacs m

Re: fileio.c "#if 0" block

2005-03-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> i'm doing some emacs-on-vms munging, and see a big "do not disturb" > block in fileio.c. is that message supposed to be in absolute spirit, > or is it ok to touch that code in the name of maintenance? I have no idea what "do not disturb" message you're referring to. But as a general rule, there

RE: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-03 Thread Drew Adams
> What I suggested was a simple command to pick up a numeral > from any buffer, > regardless of what the numeral might mean in that buffer. It would be > rudimentary, but would do at least what people are doing with > `goto-line', > without requiring them to key in the line

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Richard Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I clearly said in previous postings > that the blinking cursor produced discomfort to me because of > neuro-physiological differences with what presumably is the majority > of people. > > I believe you.

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-03 Thread Chong Yidong
> As I understand it, the newline that ends the last line in a paragraph > is normally soft. A hard newline would end the following blank line. > The newline added by require-final-newline would be at the end of the > last line in a paragraph, so it ought to be soft. Both of the newline ends the

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-03 Thread Andreas Schwab
"Drew Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > it might be generally useful to have a command that picks up the > > line-number from the text at point (whenever that text can be > > parsed as a numeral) and does `goto-line' in buffer > > `(other-buffer (current-buffer) t)'. > > W

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I clearly said in previous postings > that the blinking cursor produced discomfort to me because of > neuro-physiological differences with what presumably is the majority > of people. > > I believe you. > > What we should do depends

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-03 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Drew Adams wrote: Looking at the code for compilation-minor-mode (as I'm inexperienced with it), I see no connection with what I suggested. That mode appears to work only in buffers that can be parsed to work with next-error etc. What I suggested was a simple command to pick up a numeral from any b

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
It is impossible to distinguish between a soft newline left at the end of a line by require-final-newline, and a soft newline produced by, e.g., a call to kill-line, I don't see how a call to kill-line can produce a newline. I don't understand you. simply by loo

fileio.c "#if 0" block

2005-03-03 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
i'm doing some emacs-on-vms munging, and see a big "do not disturb" block in fileio.c. is that message supposed to be in absolute spirit, or is it ok to touch that code in the name of maintenance? i find it irksome to wrap my head around vms quirks and then turn my back on code as i apply the fru

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
From his reply, I gather than the documentation contradicts this position. No, it doesn't. That was a misunderstanding. The Emacs manual describes multiple approaches for maintaining a project. Each project, however, has its own specific policies. In Emacs, the approach we use is tha

Re: empty .emacs disables which-func-mode

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
It seems plausiuble to me. Thanks. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
I clearly said in previous postings that the blinking cursor produced discomfort to me because of neuro-physiological differences with what presumably is the majority of people. I believe you. What we should do depends on how common this condition is. What fraction of users rea

Re: Lisp debugger problems.

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
What about advising the primitives that define functions to add debug-entry-code when a function is in debug-function-list? Would that work? Please do not think of making any part of Emacs advise primitives. That technique should never be used, because it causes confusion. All code i

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
On the Appearence menu, there could be a Cursor submenu with these choices: [x] Blinking Block < > Bar < > Hollow Now is not the time to consider new features like this. Please don't continue the discussion in these lines. _

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
As others have pointed out, it is more common to have a blinking bar cursor when text is set to insert, and to use block cursor to indicate overwrite mode for those applications that use a blinking cursor. cua-mode already has code for changing the cursor based on whether we

Re: thai-word.el updated

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
I'm very sorry to say no. I don't forget about it but my todo list keeps on getting longer and don't have a time to work on it. :-( Do you think it is ok for someone else to install it? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org htt

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
Also a year ago I proposed in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-02/msg00223.html to add a new command line option: --no-blinking-cursor, -nbcdisable blinking cursor I would agree to that. Would you please install it?

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Per Abrahamsen
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone else agree that this option should be in the Options menu? Yes, please. A google search on "emacs turn off blinking cursor (without the quotes) gives around 1 hits. That is 10 times more than a similar search with "blinking cursor

RE: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-03 Thread Drew Adams
> it might be generally useful to have a command that picks up the > line-number from the text at point (whenever that text can be > parsed as a numeral) and does `goto-line' in buffer > `(other-buffer (current-buffer) t)'. We already have that, it's compilation-minor-mode. Lo

Re: Ok, here is the bug I have been looking for. Kim, not Jan...

2005-03-03 Thread Kim F. Storm
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:10:35 +0100, Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > I think an explicit decision should be made one way or the other. >> >> Based on the fact that _I_ don't have the necessary tim

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Andreas Schwab
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just started gedit and it too seems to use a blinking line cursor. So does kedit. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1

Re: empty .emacs disables which-func-mode

2005-03-03 Thread Stephan Stahl
Just some more information on this: which-func-mode gets disabled every time which-func-update runs on a buffer were imenu--make-index-alist does not find anything and throws an (error "No items suitable for an index found in this buffer"). This error is caught by which-func-mode which then cancel

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-03 Thread Andreas Schwab
"Drew Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It wouldn't help with a Web page display, of course (unless the page were > viewed in Emacs), but it sounds from your use case as if it might be > generally useful to have a command that picks up the line-number from the > text at point (whenever that tex

Re: `texinfo-format-buffer' doesn't fold long lines

2005-03-03 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Richard Stallman wrote: >> Have you reported this problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > No, I haven't done. > Please send a clear and specific bug report > with a test case, so they can work on this. I'll do that tomorrow. Thanks. ___

Re: Additional autoload-coding-system entries in code-pages.el

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
It seems good it me. Handa, do you agree? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: `texinfo-format-buffer' doesn't fold long lines

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Stallman
> Have you reported this problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, I haven't done. Please send a clear and specific bug report with a test case, so they can work on this. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/lis

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-03 Thread Jason Rumney
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Look, I feel like I have to react to this. Your quote clearly seems > to clearly suggest that I am just "offended" by the blinking cursor > for no other reason than that I am a dogmatic purist old-fashioned > Emacs user who uses nothing else. I clearly