Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Piet van Oostrum
> Piet van Oostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (PvO) wrote: >PvO> In mm: >PvO> Postscript: 0.03528 >PvO> TeX: 0.0351459803515 Sorry, those were cm, not mm. -- Piet van Oostrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP 8DAE142BE17999C4] Private email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Jay Belanger
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > The units in question are > > pt = 100:7227 in (point) > in = 254:100 cm (inch) > pc = 12pt (pica) > cm > mm > bp = 1:72 in (big point, same as PostScript's idea of point) > dd = 1238:1157pt (Didot point) > cc = 12dd (cicero)

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Jay Belanger
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >2005/10/19, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It's too long to enter already. It would be an idea to offer all TeX >> dimensions with t prefixed: > ... >> Seems like this scheme is not feasible, either. > > I does seem interesting, and would be much m

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-19 Thread Piet van Oostrum
> Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (JB) wrote: >JB> According to the data file for the units program, the printer's point >JB> (the same as typographer's point?) is precisely 0.013837 inches, while >JB> the TeX point is 1/72.27 inches = 0.013837000138... inches. Then the >JB> units program ch

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2005/10/19, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It's too long to enter already. It would be an idea to offer all TeX >> dimensions with t prefixed: > ... >> Seems like this scheme is not feasible, either. > > I does seem interesting, and would be much m

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/19, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's too long to enter already. It would be an idea to offer all TeX > dimensions with t prefixed: ... > Seems like this scheme is not feasible, either. I does seem interesting, and would be much more practical if you just used "tex" as a prefix in

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... >>> Also, using "point" for point (of >>> whatever kind) and "tpt" for TeX point lacks symmetry; perhaps >>> "texpoint" for TeX point would be better. >> >> Well you're probably right that it should be "pspoin

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread David Kastrup
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> 2005/10/16, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not >>> *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). >> >> I suspect more

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Jay Belanger
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... >> Also, using "point" for point (of >> whatever kind) and "tpt" for TeX point lacks symmetry; perhaps >> "texpoint" for TeX point would be better. > > Well you're probably right that it should be "pspoint", with an alias. That's a good idea, although I

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/19, Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real points"... > > I don't have a strong opinion on this, but would using "point" for > PostScript point be less accurate? I dunno; I did a bit of googling the last time I searched, and the nam

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Jay Belanger
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2005/10/16, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not >> *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). > > I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real poin

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-18 Thread Juri Linkov
>> There is no such thing as degrees Kelvin, there are only Kelvins. > > The question is whether its the business of calc to be convenient or > to educate. Of course, K should be available as a unit of its own, > but I see no harm by degK being an alias. Here is what units.dat contains: degK

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Jay" == Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> P.S.: The patch also removes the "degree" for "Kelvin". > > Jay> Why? > > There is no such thing as degrees Kelvin, there are only Kelvins. The question is whether its the business of calc to be

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-16 Thread James Cloos
> "Jay" == Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> P.S.: The patch also removes the "degree" for "Kelvin". Jay> Why? There is no such thing as degrees Kelvin, there are only Kelvins. (As an aside, I also agree that pt should remain pints.) -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-16 Thread Jay Belanger
Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... >> Anyway, I think it unreasonable to work with gal, qt, but then >> require "pint". If gal and qt are the usual abbreviations, then I >> think the normally used abbreviation for pint should also be us

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-16 Thread David Kastrup
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2005/10/16, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not >> *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). > > I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real point

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-16 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I suggest two renamings of unit abbreviations in calc-units.el, >> in the attached patch. >> >> "pt" should become "pint" in order to make room for the >> typographic point (pt). I think this

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-15 Thread Miles Bader
2005/10/16, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Secondly, "point" should be renamed "bp" (big point). It's not > *the* point after all (but an invention by Adobe, as far as I know). I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real points"... Probably better to make "pt" / "point" me

Re: Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-15 Thread David Kastrup
Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest two renamings of unit abbreviations in calc-units.el, in > the attached patch. > > "pt" should become "pint" in order to make room for the typographic > point (pt). I think this is more practical since the latter is much > more significant f

Amendments in calc-units.el

2005-10-15 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! I suggest two renamings of unit abbreviations in calc-units.el, in the attached patch. "pt" should become "pint" in order to make room for the typographic point (pt). I think this is more practical since the latter is much more significant for calc usage, and its current abbreviation