stack-trace-on-error vs. debug-on-error.

2005-03-04 Thread Lute Kamstra
Does anyone know the difference between stack-trace-on-error and debug-on-error? ,[ C-h v stack-trace-on-error RET ] | stack-trace-on-error's value is nil | | *Non-nil means errors display a backtrace buffer. | More precisely, this happens for any error that is handled | by the editor command

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-04 Thread David Kastrup
"Chong Yidong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> BTW, longlines.el seems to be fairly widely used; is there a reason >> it hasn't been added to the Emacs distribution? > > The main reason is the feature freeze. RMS contacted me about > putting it into Emacs a couple months back, and my guess is that

Re: stack-trace-on-error vs. debug-on-error.

2005-03-04 Thread Lute Kamstra
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know the difference between stack-trace-on-error and > debug-on-error? [...] > On first inspection they seem to do exactly the same. Silly me: I was testing it in a *scratch* buffer with eval-expression-debug-on-error on, so errors always t

Re: stack-trace-on-error vs. debug-on-error.

2005-03-04 Thread Lute Kamstra
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'll document it in the Lisp manual. Here it is: *** lispref/debugging.texi 3 Mar 2005 16:28:32 - 1.27 --- lispref/debugging.texi 4 Mar 2005 11:02:19 - *** *** 166,171 --- 166,185 (lambda () (set

Carbon build on Mac OS 9

2005-03-04 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
I just installed some changes for the Carbon build on Mac OS 9. The command make Emacs -f makefile.MPW > Emacs.MakeScript && Emacs.MakeScript now creates the Carbon build. The non-Carbon build can still be compiled with make NonCarbon -f makefile.MPW > NonCarbon.MakeScript && NonCarbon.Mak

Re: Carbon build on Mac OS 9

2005-03-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 20:48:32 +0900 > From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I just installed some changes for the Carbon build on Mac OS 9. Thanks. I think this warrants an entry in etc/NEWS (I didn't see such an entry among the changes you installed). It should go into the "Inst

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-04 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Miles Bader wrote, ... I've read the info file now, and it seems pretty explicit and clear about the distinction between the two types of logs. Yes. I wrote that text years and years ago with wording intended to create such a distinction. At that time, when people referred to a `change lo

Re: Additional autoload-coding-system entries in code-pages.el

2005-03-04 Thread Reiner Steib
On Tue, Mar 01 2005, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Reiner Steib wrote: >> I propose to add autoloads for all iso-8859-* and windows-125* coding >> systems. With these autoload, Gnus (and probably also other Emacs >> based mail and news readers) are able to display articles with the >> corresponding MIM

Re: stack-trace-on-error vs. debug-on-error.

2005-03-04 Thread drkm
> Lute Kamstra wrote: > drkm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > M-: (setq debug-on-error nil > > stack-trace-on-error t) > > C-f > > ;; Open a new window and show the stack trace > > M-: (setq debug-on-error t > > stack-trace-on-error nil) > >

start_atimer on w32 - does it work?

2005-03-04 Thread Lennart Borgman
I am trying to get hourglass code working on w32. Currently I need to know why a timer for show_hourglass does not get through. Can someone please explain to me if start_atimer works on w32? It seems to me I do not get the show_hourglass timer even if I comment out the cancel_hourglass code in w32

Re: Ok, here is the bug I have been looking for. Kim, not Jan...

2005-03-04 Thread Jan D.
Kim F. Storm wrote: /configure CFLAGS="-g -O0 -DXASSERTS=1" If somebody would refine that to /configure --with-asserts it would be great!! ./configure --enable-asserts now adds -DXASSERTS=1 to cflags. Jan D. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel

Re: When is hourglass shown?

2005-03-04 Thread Jan D.
Can someone please tell me when an hourglass is shown on X Emacs? Is it shown for an operation like ediff-buffers (that takes a long time on my pc)? Is it shown for indent-region? Not for indent-region (it should be IMHO). Ediff-buffer is quite fast on my machines, so I can't tell. Constructing

Re: UNBLOCK_INPUT again...

2005-03-04 Thread Jan D.
David Kastrup wrote: Hi, I mentioned that throws already restore the value of interrupt_input_blocked and so that doing so manually in keyboard.c would seem unnecessary. That would suggest the following patch: --- keyboard.c 16 Feb 2005 02:07:09 +0100 1.811 +++ keyboard.c 01 Mar 2005 06

Re: assertion fails

2005-03-04 Thread Tak Ota
Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:14:59 -0800: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tak Ota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:19:03 -0800: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Tak Ota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > Hi Kim, > >> > > >> > Sorry I neglected having my homework done before repor

Re: Core dumps in redisplay.

2005-03-04 Thread Jan D.
2005-02-28 kl. 15.49 skrev Richard Stallman: This sounds like normally only the main thread should ever be touching interrupt_input_blocked, unless we have a bug. Correct? So we need not think about how to synchronize accesses to the variable, but rather make sure that no thread

Re: When is hourglass shown?

2005-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Can someone please tell me when an hourglass is shown on X Emacs? Is it >> shown for an operation like ediff-buffers (that takes a long time on my pc)? >> Is it shown for indent-region? > Not for indent-region (it should be IMHO). Are you sure? I thought it was command-agnostic (i.e. it simpl

Re: UNBLOCK_INPUT again...

2005-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I think we should try to get SYNC_INPUT to work. Works for me. Stefan ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

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Re: UNBLOCK_INPUT again...

2005-03-04 Thread Jan D.
2005-03-04 kl. 20.36 skrev Stefan Monnier: I think we should try to get SYNC_INPUT to work. Works for me. For me too. But it is probably too untested to turn on by default for this release? Jan D. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.o

Re: When is hourglass shown?

2005-03-04 Thread Jan D.
Stefan Monnier wrote: Can someone please tell me when an hourglass is shown on X Emacs? Is it shown for an operation like ediff-buffers (that takes a long time on my pc)? Is it shown for indent-region? Not for indent-region (it should be IMHO). Are you sure? I thought it was command

embedding Mozilla in GNU Emacs via GTK?

2005-03-04 Thread Ted Zlatanov
I am curious if there's a chance GNU Emacs will ever have an embedded web browser object through the Mozilla GTK support: top-level docs: http://www.mozilla.org/unix/gtk-embedding.html specific embedding example: http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/embedding/browser/gtk/tests/TestGtkEmbed.cpp

Re: UNBLOCK_INPUT again...

2005-03-04 Thread David Kastrup
"Jan D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2005-03-04 kl. 20.36 skrev Stefan Monnier: > >>> I think we should try to get SYNC_INPUT to work. >> >> Works for me. >> > > For me too. But it is probably too untested to turn on by default for > this release? I think it would be madness to turn it on just

Re: UNBLOCK_INPUT again...

2005-03-04 Thread Jan D.
I think we should try to get SYNC_INPUT to work. Works for me. For me too. But it is probably too untested to turn on by default for this release? I think it would be madness to turn it on just because I have some problems understanding the code and all its implications. At least if we have no pr

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Stallman
That's interesting because the entry below (Types of Log File) that you wrote (RMS) is only recorded in the CVS log. Until a year or two ago, we did not keep track of documentation changes in ChangeLog. Nowadays we do. ___ Emacs-devel mailin

Re: ChangeLog?

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Stallman
In Emacs, the approach we use is that all changes are listed in ChangeLog. Which ChangeLog? In the ChangeLog in the directory where you made the change; or, if there is none in that directory, in its parent directory. (emacs)Types of Log File the Emacs manual says

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Stallman
BTW, longlines.el seems to be fairly widely used; is there a reason it hasn't been added to the Emacs distribution? It would be useful for a few experienced Emacs developers to look it over and make suggestions. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Em

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Stallman
First, recall that soft newlines are equivalent to spaces, so fill-paragraph can delete a soft newline or replace it with one or more spaces. Now if you have a paragraph foo foo\n bar bar\n \N foo bar\n ... where \n deno

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Stallman
How about making goto-line suggest the number at point as its default argument? (defun goto-line (arg &optional buffer) "Goto line ARG, counting from line 1 at beginning of buffer. With just C-u as argument, move point in the most recently displayed other buffer, and display it." (interactive

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Stallman
A google search on "emacs turn off blinking cursor (without the quotes) gives around 1 hits. That is 10 times more than a similar search with "blinking cursor" replaced by "fringe", but only a fifth than the search for "tool bar" or "menu bar". That is persuasive evidence; I a

Re: fileio.c "#if 0" block

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Stallman
i'm doing some emacs-on-vms munging, and see a big "do not disturb" block in fileio.c. I don't know what you mean; I searched for the string "do not disturb" but did not find it in fileio.c. Would you please show me the message you're talking about? __

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-04 Thread Miles Bader
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 18:45:32 -0500, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about making goto-line suggest the number at point > as its default argument? That seems very convenient! I think it may also be convenient if, point is not on a number, use the first number on the current line

RE: Key binding M-g should really be goto-lineautolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-04 Thread Drew Adams
> How about making goto-line suggest the number at point > as its default argument? That seems very convenient! I haven't yet received RMS's email, but yes, why not? I think it may also be convenient if, point is not on a number, use the first number on the current line as a

Re: Putting blink-cursor-mode in Options menu.

2005-03-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Richard Stallman wrote: That is persuasive evidence; I am convinced. Since this does not fit in the Show/Hide menu, let's add it at top level. Would someone please do that? Done. Sincerely, Luc. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gn

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-lineautolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-04 Thread Miles Bader
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:49:13 -0800, Drew Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI - I don't suggest that `goto-line' itself should be changed this way, > but the code I sent for `goto-line-at-point' I think goto-line should do it. Remember, rms's suggestion is that goto-line use the line number from

RE: Key binding M-g should really be goto-lineautolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-04 Thread Drew Adams
> FYI - I don't suggest that `goto-line' itself should be > changed this way, but the code I sent for `goto-line-at-point' I think goto-line should do it. What is "it"? You cut off the rest of my sentence where I said what I meant by "changed this way": use `number-nearest-point'. I

Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline

2005-03-04 Thread Chong Yidong
> Anyway, if it is a fact that both of these newlines are normally > hard, then it seems to me that there is no way of telling > whether the user wants a hard newline or a soft one > when require-final-newline adds a newline. > A user might save the file with an unfinished paragraph, > then go back

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-lineautolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-04 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Miles Bader wrote: Also it looks like `goto-line' will get a convenient key-binding (M-o)... In that case, it might confuse the user that this binding will be shadowed in gnus (gnus-server-open-all-servers), dired-x (dired-omit-mode), ibuffer (ibuffer-visit-buffer-1-window) ans ses (ses-insert

Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-lineautolearn=noversion=3.0.2 autolearn=no version=3.0.2

2005-03-04 Thread Miles Bader
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:00:51 -0800, Drew Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your suggestion to pick up the line number at bol might be acceptable to > RMS, however. I think that the main pb he had with the "nearest" stuff was > that its scope was not sufficiently constrained. That is not a pb with b

Re: Carbon build on Mac OS 9

2005-03-04 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 14:42:23 +0200, "Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: >> I just installed some changes for the Carbon build on Mac OS 9. > I think this warrants an entry in etc/NEWS (I didn't see such an > entry among the changes you installed). It should go into the > "Inst