Hi Miles and Emacs!
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Miles Bader wrote:
[Discussion of "`foo' is an obsolete function since 21.4;"]
>> . This combination of "is" and "since" is incorrect English usage.
>I think "is ... since" is pretty common usage actually, and certainly
>makes sense.
Yes, it does make
With the latest CVS code, once I execute set-face-font,
set-frame-font stops working.
For instance, please start emacs, and evaluate this:
(set-face-font 'default "fixed")
Then the font is changed to "fixed" and frame size is also
adjusted. Next, evaluate this:
(set-default-font "-adobe-couri
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > A google search on "emacs turn off blinking cursor (without the
> quotes)
> > gives around 1 hits. That is 10 times more than a similar
> search
> > with "blinking cursor" replaced by "fringe", but only a fifth than
>
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In lispref/display.texi:
>
> The @code{:height} and @code{:align-to} properties are supported on
> non-graphic terminals, but the other space properties in this section
> are not.
>
> Is it correct that :height is supported on non-graphi
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Benjamin Riefenstahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> but we must set 4 for XXX-with-signature.
> Really? I thought XXX-with-signature just adds 2 additional bytes,
> regardless how long the string is. That should be covered by "+
> CONVERSION_BUFFER_EXTRA_ROOM" (
Hi.
Some people have been looking into this.. Are there any news?
I remembered this old Mail from Lennart Borgman:
"Status bar gets face Mode Line Inactive after Alt-Tab"
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-12/msg00366.html
This seems to have the same cause as those problems with
> [Discussion of "`foo' is an obsolete function since 21.4;"]
>
> >> . This combination of "is" and "since" is incorrect English usage.
>
> >I think "is ... since" is pretty common usage actually, and certainly
> >makes sense.
>
>
>
> Yes, it does make sense and it is regrettably co
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:02:35 + (GMT), Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> [Discussion of "`foo' is an obsolete function since 21.4;"]
>
> >I think "is ... since" is pretty common usage actually, and certainly
> >makes sense.
>
>
>
> Yes, it does make sense and it is regrettably commo
Nick Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [Discussion of "`foo' is an obsolete function since 21.4;"]
> >
> > >> . This combination of "is" and "since" is incorrect English usage.
> >
> > >I think "is ... since" is pretty common usage actually, and certainly
> > >makes sense.
> >
>
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:02:35 + (GMT), Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> [Discussion of "`foo' is an obsolete function since 21.4;"]
>>
>> >I think "is ... since" is pretty common usage actually, and certainly
>> >makes sense.
>>
>>
>>
>
Hmm.. now that i started looking i have found a further symptom
and a new bug:
When using Alt-tab to switch frames the cursor blinking (if enabled)
does not start again.
On WXP:
emacs -Q
C-x 5 2
the cursor does not blink in this second frame. (BUG)
C-l
now it does blink
Alt-tab
the cursor in the
> >
> > I don't know if it's correct or not but I think it is effective use of
> > English.
>
> "efficient" you mean probably . Let us just replace every "is not"
> and "was not" and "has not" with "ain't". That is also efficient.
This is a bit surreal! No, I mean effective as in "it conv
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 11:53:11AM -0500, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote:
>From: Roar =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thron=E6s?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:28:09 +0100
>
> porting work continues. in cvs, see branches ttn-vms-21-2-stash and
> ttn-vms-21-3-stash for (the small trickle) of check
> When somebody who loves this bastard mess of a language that is English
> reads something like that, the effects are not nice: First there is
> shock. Within seconds, shock gives way to disbelief, disbelief to pain,
> and pain to anger[*]. Finally, anger gives way to an irresistible urge
> eit
Lennart has been looking at this. He sent me some replacement files for
w32term.c etc, but I have not had time to look at it, and he has not had
time to send it as a patch which would be more convenient for me.
Stephan Stahl wrote:
Hi.
Some people have been looking into this.. Are there any ne
> I propose the following fixes for html-mode in sgml-mode.el.
Feel free to install them.
Stefan
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>"As of 21.4, Foo is an obsolete function."
Another alternative:
"Foo is an obsolete function. Foo was deprecated
(alternatively: declared obsolete) in release 21.4."
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In my previous ielm run, I somehow managed to misunderstand
`compile-defun', but anyway, the message appears after:
`emacs -Q', `M-x ielm RET' and:
*** Welcome to IELM *** Type (describe-mode) for help.
ELISP> (load "bytecomp")
t
ELISP> (load "~/longlines.elc")
t
ELISP>
It does not appear with
- Original Message -
From: "Stephan Stahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I remembered this old Mail from Lennart Borgman:
> "Status bar gets face Mode Line Inactive after Alt-Tab"
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-12/msg00366.html
>
> This seems to have the same cause as those
If I understood correctly, we do not like code included with the Emacs
distribution to use `defadvice'. longlines.el uses defadvice for
`newline', `kill-region', `copy-region-as-kill', `yank' and `yank-pop'.
Yes,it would be good to think about other mechanisms to use instead
of that.
> If I understood correctly, we do not like code included with the Emacs
> distribution to use `defadvice'. longlines.el uses defadvice for
> `newline', `kill-region', `copy-region-as-kill', `yank' and
> `yank-pop'.
>
> Yes,it would be good to think about other mechanisms to use in
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> However, a variant which might be even clearer, and maybe less
> objectionable would be "FOO is an obsolete function (since 21.4)".
That's not too bad, although I prefer the "has been" variant. Here is
yet another using a fairly simple past tense with a w
> ELISP> (load "bytecomp")
> t
> ELISP> (load "~/longlines.elc")
> t
> ELISP>
>
> It does not appear without (load "bytecomp").
Okay, I can reproduce it now. Moving the define-minor-mode call to the top
of the file fixes the problem; thanks.
Strangely enough, M-x byte-compile does not complain ab
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On a different topic, it would be useful if the message indicated a
> replacement.
It does.
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ELISP> (load "bytecomp")
>> t
ELISP> (load "~/longlines.elc")
>> t
ELISP>
>>
>> It does not appear without (load "bytecomp").
> Okay, I can reproduce it now. Moving the define-minor-mode call to the top
> of the file fixes the problem; thanks.
> Strangely enough, M-x byte-compile does not compl
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>The only solution (within the current implementation) that I can
>think of, is to temporarily remove all debug-on-entry code while
>stepping with `d'.
>
> Would setting inhibit-debug-on-entry temporarily do the job?
inhibit-deb
Stefan Monnier wrote:
Maybe it's because you call M-x byte-compiler from an Emacs where longlines
was already loaded.
I do not believe so:
[bash2.05b.0 ~ 3 1] emacs-22.0.50 -batch -f batch-byte-compile
longlines.el
Wrote /home/teirllm/longlines.elc
[bash2.05b.0 ~ 3 2]
Maybe it is because
I guess that, In Chong's message, I confused byte-compile with
byte-compile-file. What I believed was strange is that byte compiling
the file produced no warning messages, but maybe that is due to the
variable occurring in defadvice.
Sincerely,
Luc.
> This gives a backtrace like this:
> -- Buffer: *Backtrace* --
> Debugger entered--entering a function:
> * (lambda (var) (if (or inhibit-debug-on-entry debugger-jumping-flag) nil
> (debug ...)) (list (quote setq) var (list ... var)))(x)
> (inc x)
> (progn (setq x 0) (inc x))
> ev
>Maybe it's because you call M-x byte-compiler from an Emacs where longlines
>was already loaded.
> I do not believe so:
> [bash2.05b.0 ~ 3 1] emacs-22.0.50 -batch -f batch-byte-compile
> longlines.el
> Wrote /home/teirllm/longlines.elc
> [bash2.05b.0 ~ 3 2]
> Maybe it is because all th
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I see you implemented this. This makes debug-on-entry for macros a
>> lot better, of course. Thanks. But the problem I mentioned remains:
>> the debug-entry-code is visible.
> [...]
>> Debugger entered--entering a function:
>> * (lambda (var) (if (o
Regarding HTTP/1.1 Accept: and Accept-Charset: statements, Nic Ferrier
wrote
I find this confusing. I understand what you are saying about
commas and semi-colons... but I think it is a red herring in terms
of better documentation. You seem to be trying to explain the HTTP
rfc in an eli
From:Roar =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thron=E6s?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Tue, 8 Mar 2005 13:06:21 +0100
I suppose porting (patching) to 21.3 will be easy?
yes, the difference between 21.2 and 21.3 is minor.
Have you made any thoughts about 22?
not really.
Have you thought a
> That's not too bad, although I prefer the "has been" variant. Here is
> yet another using a fairly simple past tense with a word that might
> not be known to non-programmers:
>
> FOO was deprecated in 21.4
>
Yes, this a good point. Obsolete generally means that it has been removed fro
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:08:21 -0800, Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > However, a variant which might be even clearer, and maybe less
> > objectionable would be "FOO is an obsolete function (since 21.4)".
>
> That's not too bad, although I prefer the "has been" variant. Here is
> yet anoth
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The thing is that the version where it was made past tense really
> isn't that important
Agreed. Maybe we can drop it from the message. Stefan? ;-)
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Stefan kindly informed me that table.el was slowing down menu
operation considerably depending on buffer contents. The attached
patch corrects this problem. Thanks Stefan.
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2005-03-08 Takaaki Ota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* textmodes/table.el (table--line-column-position): New idiom.
Here are some further remarks about longlines.el.
`longlines-wrap-follows-window-size' is all by itself in a parentless
group `wrap', which people will never find by browsing Custom. I
believe it belongs in the longlines group with the other options.
The Emacs convention of ending a sentence wit
Using a build of cvs emacs, is there a simple way to disable tramp? I
just want to use ange-ftp (it was all set up and I really don't want to
bother getting a cygwin ssh up and running on NT) but every time I try
to open a file using something like
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tmp/foo
I start getting er
However, a variant which might be even clearer, and maybe less
objectionable would be
How about "FOO is an obsolete function (now and since 21.4)".
Or "FOO is an obsolete function (marked obsolete in Emacs 21.4)".
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Hello,
I feel bad to ask this question without being able to help (back to same old
firewall issues and not able to access CVS emacs).
Is there a time line for releasing the new emacs lisp manual (hard copy)? I
(and lot of others) am eagerly waiting to buy a copy of it.
-dhruva
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Guy Gascoigne - Piggford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Using a build of cvs emacs, is there a simple way to disable tramp? I
> just want to use ange-ftp.
Unloading Tramp wouldn't be sufficient because of the associated
autoloads. Instead of, you might declare this:
(setq tramp-default-method "
I see `goto-line' finally bound to M-g in CVS. Good news!
After such a big change, it is time now for a few improvements.
1. Before this change, font-lock-fontify-block was bound to `M-g M-g'.
Now it is bound to `M-o M-g'. I suspect that the reason to bind it
to `M-g M-g' was to make it easier t
If I look for something in an Info manual, I use Info-search (s) and if I
looked for something on a particular page, I would use isearch-forward
(C-s). However, now isearch-forward now also searches the subsequent manual
pages and takes me away from the page I'm interested in. That seems a bit
red
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