Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread David Kastrup
"Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Cc: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> From: "Jan D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:00:22 +0200 >> >> But how can you tell if an object is a standard component in the OS or >> not? AFAIK

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Mathias Dahl
> > The COM interface itself is part of the OS. Much like DND. > > Yes, like the DLL interface for which a way of accessing it from > within Emacs in a general way was ruled out. > > I quite fail to see how your assessment of the situation differs from > mine, but it is not really important. Ei

A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-28 Thread Sun Yijiang
Is that possible? Anyone had the same thoughts? I think it would be very very useful for an editor to have such syntax-specific parsing ability. For lex/flex, Emacs has the ability to filter out comments and strings as they do. Sun Yijiang ___ Emacs-d

eBay Verify Accounts

2005-03-28 Thread eBay Security
Title: eBay Daily Status: Dec-19-04 06:21:56 PDT < Your credit/debit card information must be updated Dear eBay Member, We recently noticed one or more attempts to log in to your eBay account from a foreign IP address and we have reasons to believe that your account w

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It is true that I now understand, and accept (and maybe also agree to > :), the "development team's" view on the subject. However, tt would Just for the record, it is the view of the head maintainer Richard Stallman, not of the "development team". Some other maintainers may agree with him, but

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Is that possible? Anyone had the same thoughts? I think it would be > very very useful for an editor to have such syntax-specific parsing > ability. There's a package out there that does just that (IIRC it uses bison and post-processes the C output to turn it in to elisp). Can't remember the nam

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Peter Lee
Mathias Dahl writes: > I have needed to access different COM-objects, and the only way > to do that seems to be by using an external program, in my case > cscript.exe, the command-line VBScript interpreter. Have a look at http://www.gnusoftware.com/Emacs/Com/ A few years ago I w

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
There is the Semantic Bovinator. If I understand correctly, it's a parser generator written in Emacs Lisp, generating Emacs Lisp code. The SourceForge project is called CEDET, and it includes context aware completion as an application of the parser generator. Kai _

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Kai Großjohann
Mathias Dahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Much of my Emacs-time is at work, using MS Windows. For some small > hacks (those who read gnu.emacs.sources might have seen some of them) > I have needed to access different COM-objects, and the only way to do > that seems to be by using an external prog

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
Why would C-x 8 be obsolete? What has replaced it? Input methods, I would have thought. I am surprised by the idea that C-x 8 is better. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
I use S-SPC to toggle the X input method, and am _constantly_ triggering it by mistake, even though I'm (obviously) very aware of the problem and try not to. As you can imagine this usually happens when typing a space after entering a capitalized word or shifted symbol -- my sh

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
This interests me. Do you have any idea on how to go about doing something like this as a separate project? Please don't. Legally, you're free to do it, but the consequences of doing it would be harmful to computer users' freedom. David, if respond to such an inquiry in the future, would

Re: Putting auto-image-file-mode in Options menu

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
BTW, shouldn't "image-file.el" (the source file for `auto-image-mode') be moved to lisp/obsolete, now that image-mode is preferred? I don't know if it is totally obsolete. Does anyone think it isn't? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gn

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
We will not do this, because it would do nothing to make the GNU operating system better. GNU Emacs is a part of the GNU system; its purpose is to be part of the capabilities of the GNU system. Our mission is to replace and eliminate non-free software, not to enhance it. Therefore, the GNU Proje

Re: Advanced calendar usage in emacs-xtra.texi

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
This leaves us with the question of what constitutes appropriate use of @inforef. How about if you and whoever else is specifically interested discuss this on bug-texinfo? ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/ma

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Is that possible? Anyone had the same thoughts? I think it would be >> very very useful for an editor to have such syntax-specific parsing >> ability. > There's a package out there that does just that (IIRC it uses bison and > post-processes the C output to turn it in to elisp). > Can't remembe

CUA-Mode in OS X-Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Henrik Grotjahn
Hello, being a user of the CUA-Mode on Mac OS X, I would appreciate it, if cut, copy & paste could (also) be invoked via "applekey"-x-c-v, which ist default on OS X for these actions. This, however, would only make sense when mac-command-key-is-meta was set to nil. Do you think, this could be a

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-28 Thread David Kastrup
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I use S-SPC to toggle the X input method, and am _constantly_ > triggering it by mistake, even though I'm (obviously) very aware of > the problem and try not to. And you are English. In German, _every_ noun is capitalized. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildst

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread David Kastrup
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It is true that I now understand, and accept (and maybe also agree to >> :), the "development team's" view on the subject. However, tt would > > Just for the record, it is the view of the head maintainer Richard > Stallman, not of the "development team

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This interests me. Do you have any idea on how to go about doing > something like this as a separate project? > > Please don't. Legally, you're free to do it, but the consequences > of doing it would be harmful to computer users' freedom. > >

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Jérôme Marant
Mathias Dahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would it be possible to do using some "plug-in" dll? Is anyone else > besides be interested in it? In my opinion, it would be quite useful > for accessing Windows-specific things like Registry data, automating > "ActiveX-enabled" software (both proprietar

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-28 Thread Miles Bader
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:25:51 -0500, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would C-x 8 be obsolete? What has replaced it? > > Input methods, I would have thought. I am surprised by the idea that > C-x 8 is better. Um, quoting the part of my mail that you omitted: The various

Re: Putting auto-image-file-mode in Options menu

2005-03-28 Thread Miles Bader
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:25:29 -0500, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, shouldn't "image-file.el" (the source file for `auto-image-mode') > be moved to lisp/obsolete, now that image-mode is preferred? > > I don't know if it is totally obsolete. Does anyone think it isn't?

Re: Putting auto-image-file-mode in Options menu

2005-03-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:44:04 +0900 > From: Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:25:29 -0500, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > BTW, shouldn't "image-file.el" (

Re: file-name-shadow-mode

2005-03-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> But /home//:~//info will *not* be treated like /:~//info. > Whether it's a bug or feature, I don't know, but I find it surprising. > I agree it would be more natural to change this. > Just because /: suppresses special treatment of following text > does not mean previous text must suppre

Re: Menu again.

2005-03-28 Thread Kim F. Storm
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I made the decision to keep the Hide/Show menu as it is >> and put the new option at top level. > > That was when we didn't have a command line option to turn off cursor > blinking. And because that deci

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Cc: "Jan D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:07:30 +0200 > > > The COM interface itself is part of the OS. Much like DND. > > Yes, like the DLL interface Sigh. No, not like the DLL in

Re: auto-compression-mode (was: Putting auto-image-file-mode in Options menu)

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
What was the outcome? Can we turn `auto-compression-mode' on by default? I don't know yet. I am trying it nowadays. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
Different languages have different conventions for document titles: some require to upper-case all letters, some - to capitalize all words, others - to capitalize only the first word ("EMACS TUTORIAL", "Emacs Tutorial", "Emacs tutorial"), different conventions for centering the

Re: Suggestion: Change C-x right / C-x left to C-x C-right / C-x C-left

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
Maybe it's a bug in the corresponding term/*.el file. What does $TERM say and what does C-h l say after hitting C-left? TERM is "linux", and C-h l shows ESC b. Not only that, I did (list (read-event) (read-event)) and determined that the console actually sends ESC b. ;-). _

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
Is it ok to install a change that binds such word-oriented commands as M-f, M-b, M-t, M-d, M-DEL to the functions recognizing thai words when a user select Thai lang. env? That is ok to install now, because it can't cause problems except for people who use the Thai language environment

New dumping problem...

2005-03-28 Thread David Kastrup
On the newest Fedora Core tests, the setarch i386 workaround is no longer sufficient for dumping. It turns out that one way to fix this is to use echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space (which only root can do). Uh oh. The error message is Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50 **

Re: Layout of Emacs manual top mode in Info

2005-03-28 Thread Luc Teirlinck
David Kastrup wrote: Here are some other nodes which are really inferiors of the ones already listed, mentioned here so you can get to them in one step: --- The Detailed Node Listing --- appears without any fontification, highlighting, boldface or other offsetting, th

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-28 Thread Gaetan Leurent
Richard Stallman wrote on 27 Mar 2005 04:52:47 +0100: > I was thinking that C-x 8 is obsolete, but if this is the best way to > do that, maybe it means C-x 8 is not obsolete. What do people think? I think C-x 8 is usefull if your keyboard allows you to type most of the characters you need, but

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-28 Thread Sun Yijiang
I found his homepage at http://www.newartisans.com/johnw, but there's no scanner.el found. Also I searched mail archive of gnu.emacs.sources, but still not found. Where can I download it, please? On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:31:32 -0500, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is that possible?

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I found his homepage at http://www.newartisans.com/johnw, but there's > no scanner.el found. Also I searched mail archive of > gnu.emacs.sources, but still not found. Where can I download it, > please? groups.google.com => group:gnu.emacs.sources scanner.el Stefan ___

Re: Putting auto-image-file-mode in Options menu

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
On MS-Windows, auto-image-mode helps me view image files for which no standard viewer comes with the OS. PPM images are a case in point. Is the new image-mode feature a satisfactory replacement? I think it ought to be. If not, why not? ___ Em

Re: Putting auto-image-file-mode in Options menu

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Stallman
The case where image-mode isn't equivalent is where you use `insert-file' to insert an image -- auto-image-file will cause the inserted text to be covered with the image, but image-mode won't do anything (unless the user invokes it afterwards, and then it will only work if the i

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-28 Thread Jan D.
The COM interface itself is part of the OS. Much like DND. Yes, like the DLL interface Sigh. No, not like the DLL interface. COM is implemented in 2 system libraries (depending on the Windows version): compobj.dll and ole32.dll. So it's like any other system call, which Emacs clearly does use.

which-func-mode again

2005-03-28 Thread Stephan Stahl
Hi. Would someone please apply this patch? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-03/msg00105.html Richard seemed to think the patch is ok and no one else objected http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-03/msg00185.html Thanks Stephan -- Stephan Stahl

show_help_echo truncates unconditionally

2005-03-28 Thread Stephan Stahl
Hi. When tooltip-mode is disabled or more general when show-help-funtion is nil the help messages are shown in the echo area. During display message-truncate-display is bound to t. I suspect this was done to avoid a "jumping echo area". This is nice but i would accept this tradeoff to see the w

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-28 Thread Juri Linkov
> Is it ok to install a change that binds such word-oriented > commands as M-f, M-b, M-t, M-d, M-DEL to the functions > recognizing thai words when a user select Thai lang. env? BTW, there is also the variable `sentence-end-without-period' for Thai texts. Maybe it should be enabled in Thai lang.e

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-28 Thread Kim F. Storm
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it ok to install a change that binds such word-oriented > commands as M-f, M-b, M-t, M-d, M-DEL to the functions > recognizing thai words when a user select Thai lang. env? > > That is ok to install now, because it can't cause problems

calc version / copyright

2005-03-28 Thread Kim F. Storm
Doing h h in calc gives what looks like outdated info: GNU Emacs Calculator version 2.02g of Mon Nov 19 2001. By Dave Gillespie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright (C) 1990, 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc. -- Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cua.dk ___