Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-29 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Could someone tell me what is the right way to rebind all >> keys that are currently bound to forward-word to >> thai-forward-word, and bind them back to the orignal later? > Something like > (defvar thaiword-mode-

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-29 Thread John Wiegley
Sun Yijiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I found his homepage at http://www.newartisans.com/johnw, but > there's no scanner.el found. Also I searched mail archive of > gnu.emacs.sources, but still not found. Where can I download it, > please? scanner.el only produces lexers, not parsers. And it

Re: Layout of Emacs manual top mode in Info

2005-03-29 Thread David Kastrup
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Kastrup wrote: > >Here are some other nodes which are really inferiors of the ones >already listed, mentioned here so you can get to them in one step: > > --- The Detailed Node Listing --- > >appears without any fontificat

Re: Interfacing ActiveX/COM-objects "natively" in Emacs

2005-03-29 Thread David Kastrup
"Jan D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Sigh. No, not like the DLL interface. COM is implemented in 2 >> system libraries (depending on the Windows version): compobj.dll >> and ole32.dll. So it's like any other system call, which Emacs >> clearly does use. > > > Isn't that like saying that dyna

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-29 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:47:09 +0900 (JST), Kenichi Handa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> To handle the regular expression "\\b" and "\\B" correctly >> for Thai, we need a bigger change in regex.c. For the >> moment, I ha

Sensible menu bindings (was Re: A doc typo?)

2005-03-29 Thread Kim F. Storm
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I recently suggested patches to report menu bindings using the real >> menu item texts rather than the internal names, like this: > >> File=>Print=>Print With Faces > > I agree it would be an improvement. But IIRC you did it by modifying > key-d

Re: Special Characters on Mac Emacs

2005-03-29 Thread Sébastien Kirche
Le 25 Mar 2005, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu vraute : > > - following your example M-: (set-frame-font > > (create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font > > "-apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--9-90-75-75-m-90-mac-roman")) > > > I can see that the frame briefly flashes then it redisplays with the > > etl font. > > I cou

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-29 Thread Miles Bader
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:02:51 +0900 (JST), Kenichi Handa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that the innermost function > re_match_2_internal doesn't know about the original buffer > or Lisp string. So, to make PREDICATE-FUN work, we must > generate a Lisp string each time and that will b

Re: Sensible menu bindings

2005-03-29 Thread David Kastrup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> I recently suggested patches to report menu bindings using the real >>> menu item texts rather than the internal names, like this: >> >>> File=>Print=>Print With Faces >> >> I agree it would be an imp

Re: Antialiased text on X11

2005-03-29 Thread Geoffrey J. Teale
Hi, I've just checked out and built this branch a couple of times (once with Gtk once with LUCID). In both cases I noticed that there were a lot of artifacts being left around, in fact it seams that buffers and mini-buffer are only being redrawn when I resize the emacs window. If I don't resize

Re: Antialiased text on X11

2005-03-29 Thread Miles Bader
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:52:07 +0100, Geoffrey J. Teale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume this is just a result of the current, early state of > development, but just in case I'm the only one experiencing this > problem I though I'd mention it I saw it too -- it doesn't seem to ever clear to bac

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-29 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm, I see the following in referenced in various places in regex.c, > and it seems to be set by Emacs callers to the regex functions: >/* In Emacs, this is the string or buffer in which we > are matching. It is

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-29 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Is it ok to install a change that binds such word-oriented >> commands as M-f, M-b, M-t, M-d, M-DEL to the functions >> recognizing thai words when a user selec

Re: Sensible menu bindings

2005-03-29 Thread Kim F. Storm
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > how feasible would it be to > make kbd accept File=>Print=>Print With Faces strings? Then there > would be no necessity to report a different form. Does kbd really generate proper menu bindings in its current form? Does it make sense at all to use kbd

Re: Antialiased text on X11

2005-03-29 Thread Geoffrey J. Teale
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I saw it too -- it doesn't seem to ever clear to background color > before drawing. > > [There are some other odd effects like color fringing that make me > wonder if it's assuming a white background.] I notice that, rather randomly, if I drag another wind

Re: RMAIL slows

2005-03-29 Thread Robert J. Chassell
(gdb) p string1=0x40af4785 that told GDB to set the value of string1 to 0x40af4785. I don't think that's what you meant. (gdb) pr (88425796 . That got an error because the value had the wrong type. It is a string, not a Lisp_Object. ... My apologies; I m

Re: isearch-forward and Info-search

2005-03-29 Thread Kai Großjohann
Juri Linkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I also removed `isearch-within-brackets' because it is used nowhere > within Emacs. I think the intent of that was to allow SPC to be a shortcut to mean "any whitespace", whereas SPC inside brackets still stands for itself. But I lost track of the discus

Re: show_help_echo truncates unconditionally

2005-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> When tooltip-mode is disabled or more general when show-help-funtion > is nil the help messages are shown in the echo area. During display > message-truncate-display is bound to t. I suspect this was done to > avoid a "jumping echo area". This is nice but i would accept this > tradeoff to see

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> scanner.el only produces lexers, not parsers. And it is somewhat > ancient. It should still work, but no guarantees... BTW, have you actually used it? For what? How was the performance? Stefan ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu

Re: isearch-forward and Info-search

2005-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I also removed `isearch-within-brackets' because it is used nowhere >> within Emacs. > I think the intent of that was to allow SPC to be a shortcut to mean > "any whitespace", whereas SPC inside brackets still stands for itself. IIRC it's a left over of a previous implementation of that featur

Re: Sensible menu bindings

2005-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> With my patch, (key-description KEY t) will do just that. > Making C-h c using that is trivial (I already did so). Great, then I strongly support it. > C-h k "File" "New File..." reports: > ,-- > | File=>New File... runs the command find-file > |which is an interacti

Re: which-func-mode again

2005-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Would someone please apply this patch? > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-03/msg00105.html > Richard seemed to think the patch is ok and no one else objected > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-03/msg00185.html Installed, Stefan ___

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-29 Thread Evil Boris
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was thinking that C-x 8 is obsolete, but if this is the best way to > do that, maybe it means C-x 8 is not obsolete. What do people think? This is just my opinion, but I find C-x 8 extremely useful. Most frequently I use no input method at all (

Re: Sensible menu bindings

2005-03-29 Thread Kim F. Storm
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> With my patch, (key-description KEY t) will do just that. >> Making C-h c using that is trivial (I already did so). > > Great, then I strongly support it. Thanks. > >> C-h k "File" "New File..." reports: >> ,-- >> | File=>New

Re: show_help_echo truncates unconditionally

2005-03-29 Thread Stephan Stahl
Hi Stefan. Stefan Monnier said: > I'd rather find a way to get the best of both worlds without > a config variable. > E.g. using scrolling in the single-line minibuffer, or by only truncating > for the first few seconds and then expanding the echo area if you stay on > the same help-echo spot long

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-29 Thread Gaetan Leurent
Evil Boris wrote on 29 Mar 2005 16:51:39 +0200: > PS. By the way, should there be some documentation that describes C-x > 8 commands, as a group ? C-x 8 C-h lists the key translations starting with C-x 8. It doesn't answer your other questions, though. -- Gaëtan LEURENT _

Re: calc version / copyright

2005-03-29 Thread Jay Belanger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Doing h h in calc gives what looks like outdated info: > > GNU Emacs Calculator version 2.02g of Mon Nov 19 2001. > By Dave Gillespie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Copyright (C) 1990, 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc. It's been updated; now it looks like

Re: Refcard for Gnus in a single file?

2005-03-29 Thread Reiner Steib
On Wed, Jan 05 2005, Reiner Steib wrote: > while discussing[1] the inclusion of the Gnus reference card in Emacs, > Richard asked me if it is possible to replace the five LaTeX files[2] > by a single file and create the different versions (Refcard, reference > booklet for A4 and letter paper) depe

Re: A yacc/bison that outputs elisp?

2005-03-29 Thread John Wiegley
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BTW, have you actually used it? For what? How was the performance? I did use it once, but didn't measure the performance. It relies heavily on a tight loop that does lots of vector lookups. John ___ Em

Re: Antialiased text on X11

2005-03-29 Thread Henrik Enberg
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > [There are some other odd effects like color fringing that make me > wonder if it's assuming a white background.] that might be your setup. fontconfig has options for how colors should be blended, and in my experience it's basically impossible to g

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lazy-lock is obsolete?

2005-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
Any objection to moving lazy-lock.el to the obsolete subdirectory? Stefan ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: Antialiased text on X11

2005-03-29 Thread Jan D.
Geoffrey J. Teale wrote: Hi, I've just checked out and built this branch a couple of times (once with Gtk once with LUCID). In both cases I noticed that there were a lot of artifacts being left around, in fact it seams that buffers and mini-buffer are only being redrawn when I resize the emacs win

Re: New dumping problem...

2005-03-29 Thread Jan D.
David Kastrup wrote: On the newest Fedora Core tests, the setarch i386 workaround is no longer sufficient for dumping. It turns out that one way to fix this is to use echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space (which only root can do). Uh oh. Hmm, there is not much documentation of this, but w

Re: lazy-lock is obsolete?

2005-03-29 Thread Jérôme Marant
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Any objection to moving lazy-lock.el to the obsolete subdirectory? Any reason why it should be considered as obsolete? I do use lazy-lock mode sometimes. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant ___ Emacs-devel mailing

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-03-29 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
From: Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:53:33 -0500 Let's add the feature now ok, please find below a patch for startup.el and help-fns.el, as well as each TUTORIAL file. the title line was taken from the text of the tutorial file instead of from the email,

Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 28, Issue 119

2005-03-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:38:49 -0500 > > + @kindex C-M-n @r{(Fortran mode)} > @kindex C-M-n @r{(F90 mode)} Why do we need two kindex entries here? Isn't the one that says "Fortran mode" enough to cover both Fortran 90 and pre-9x Fortrans? (Having almost identical

Re: Layout of Emacs manual top mode in Info

2005-03-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:49:49 +0200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Richard asked me about this in private, and after taking a look at it, > I recommended rather going for @subsection (which is the right size > here) because @section appeared _too_ large

Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 28, Issue 119

2005-03-29 Thread Glenn Morris
"Eli Zaretskii" wrote: >> + @kindex C-M-n @r{(Fortran mode)} >> @kindex C-M-n @r{(F90 mode)} > > Why do we need two kindex entries here? Isn't the one that says > "Fortran mode" enough to cover both Fortran 90 and pre-9x Fortrans? Probably. But, they are different modes, FWIW. Maybe IW nothing

Re: calc version / copyright

2005-03-29 Thread David Kastrup
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > >> Doing h h in calc gives what looks like outdated info: >> >> GNU Emacs Calculator version 2.02g of Mon Nov 19 2001. >> By Dave Gillespie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Copyright (C) 1990, 1993 Free Software Foundat

Re: calc version / copyright

2005-03-29 Thread Nick Roberts
> It's been updated; now it looks like > > GNU Emacs Calculator version 2.1. >By Dave Gillespie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. If you are the current author, then I think you should include your details otherwise all feedback will go to Dave Gi

Re: calc version / copyright

2005-03-29 Thread Jay Belanger
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: >> >>> Doing h h in calc gives what looks like outdated info: >>> >>> GNU Emacs Calculator version 2.02g of Mon Nov 19 2001. >>> By Dave Gillespie, [EMAIL PROTECTED

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Re: calc version / copyright

2005-03-29 Thread Jay Belanger
Nick Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It's been updated; now it looks like > > > > GNU Emacs Calculator version 2.1. > >By Dave Gillespie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > If you are the current author, then I think you should include

Re: lazy-lock is obsolete?

2005-03-29 Thread Jason Rumney
Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Any objection to moving lazy-lock.el to the obsolete subdirectory? > > Any reason why it should be considered as obsolete? jit-lock is supposed to replace it. > I do use lazy-lock mode sometimes. Do you

Re: Antialiased text on X11

2005-03-29 Thread Miles Bader
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:24:34 +0200, Henrik Enberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [There are some other odd effects like color fringing that make me > > wonder if it's assuming a white background.] > > that might be your setup. fontconfig has options for how colors should > be blended, and in my ex

Re: calc version / copyright

2005-03-29 Thread Kim F. Storm
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nick Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > It's been updated; now it looks like >> > >> > GNU Emacs Calculator version 2.1. >> >By Dave Gillespie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> >> If you are

Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost

2005-03-29 Thread Richard Stallman
PS. By the way, should there be some documentation that describes C-x 8 commands, as a group [C-h k only responds to, say "C-x 8 ' a" with the somewhat useless "á [translated from ...] runs self-insert-command"]? I don't understand those words. If you mean you want a list of the v

Re: show_help_echo truncates unconditionally

2005-03-29 Thread Richard Stallman
What job does show_help_echo do? The comment says /* Display help echo in the echo area. HELP a string means display that string, HELP nil means clear the help echo. If HELP is a function, call it with OBJECT and POS as arguments; the function should return a help strin

Re: which-func-mode again

2005-03-29 Thread Richard Stallman
Richard seemed to think the patch is ok and no one else objected http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2005-03/msg00185.html ISTR that there was further discussion which suggested this might not be quite the right patch. That is why I didn't install it. However, I have not had ti

Re: New dumping problem...

2005-03-29 Thread Richard Stallman
It turns out that one way to fix this is to use echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space (which only root can do). At this point I think we decide it's their problem, not our problem, and send them a bug report. ___ Emacs-devel mail

Re: man/files.texi

2005-03-29 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Eli Zaretskii wrote: How about moving the entire documentation of auto-revert-check-vc-info to one of the sections that document VC? I indeed believe that it belongs in `(emacs)VC Mode Line'. I also made some further changes to the text. I propose the following patch, which I can install,

Re: man/files.texi

2005-03-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:14:13 -0600 (CST) > From: Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > - @vindex auto-revert-check-vc-info > - Whenever Auto Revert mode reverts the buffer, it updates the version > - control information, such as the version control number displayed

Re: Possible change to startup.el

2005-03-29 Thread Marcelo Toledo
Looks good for me. I had a little problem when the patch reached TUTORIAL.th and .zh, but it doesn't matter if the line is there. Would be intersting if all translators could take a look at the first line too see if it's fine. I've created an email to all of them asking for it and I will send as s

Re: lazy-lock is obsolete?

2005-03-29 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Jason Rumney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Do you use it because jit-lock is insufficient, or just out of habit? I recalled that I switched from jit to lazy because it seemed to me that lazy was faster (with 21.3) Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant ___ Emacs

emacs -Q not documented

2005-03-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[emacs 2005-03-29] Option `-Q' isn't documented in emacs --help. Werner ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > So I have no idea what to say in NEWS. But if you (or someone else) > > write up a NEWS entry, I will gladly install it. Here a new try: Improved Thai support. A new minor mode `thai-word-mode' (which is automatically activated if you select Thai as a language environment) changes ke

Re: Refcard for Gnus in a single file?

2005-03-29 Thread Miles Bader
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The files gnus-refcard.tex and gnus-logo.eps can be > installed in Emacs under etc/ (like the Emacs refcard: > etc/refcard.{tex,ps}). Richard agreed to this, see [1] or [3]. What Makefile changes (if any) should be applied to the Emacs tree? Emacs curre

Re: announcing thaiword.el?

2005-03-29 Thread Miles Bader
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:47:09 +0900 (JST), Kenichi Handa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To handle the regular expression "\\b" and "\\B" correctly > for Thai, we need a bigger change in regex.c. For the > moment, I have no idea how to do that. Current extensions to "word syntax", using `word-separa