Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: The think that comes to mind is `show-all'. In my Emacs: (define-obsolete-function-alias 'show-all 'outline-show-all 25.1) Ah right. That's the same idea. Functions without a namespace are being

Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: So when can we target Emacs 24? Jessie? My Debian Squeeze VM has 23.4.1. CentOS 7 is already on Emacs 24.3. Org 8.4 will drop support for Emacs 23, i.e., as soon as Org 8.3 is released, we can activate lexical binding on master. Regards,

Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: What is the rational behind Org 8.3 has Emacs 23 support; Org 8.4 does not. I'm just trying to understand. . . Easy: 8.3 ends with a 3, like Emacs 23... Org 8.3 is close from being released. It started with Emacs 23 support, a long time ago, so it would make

[O] bug#19887: 24.4; Cannot kill buffer; Wrong type argument: overlayp, nil

2015-02-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nicolas Richard theonewiththeevill...@yahoo.fr Cc: Damian Nadales damian.nada...@asml.com, 19...@debbugs.gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100 Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org writes: From: Damian Nadales damian.nada...@asml.com That's

Re: [O] [BUG] org-clock-display is partial (only some entries are counted)

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org writes: I still consider the default behavior as dangerous -- because the novice is not aware (except if obvious) that some clock times may be dropped in the computation, and I find that scary --, but thanks anyway for the

[O] bug#19887: 24.4; Cannot kill buffer; Wrong type argument: overlayp, nil

2015-02-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Damian Nadales damian.nada...@asml.com CC: 19...@debbugs.gnu.org 19...@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 07:32:12 + I cannot reproduce this. I tried both Emacs 24.4 and the pretest of 24.5. In both cases, Emacs asks me whether to kill a buffer that is modified, and

[O] bug#19887: 24.4; Cannot kill buffer; Wrong type argument: overlayp, nil

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Richard
Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org writes: From: Damian Nadales damian.nada...@asml.com That's weird. Which buffer are you killing, the Org buffer, or the new buffer that is created when pressing C-c ' inside the source block? Is the latter the one I cannot kill. There was no C-c ' in the recipe you

Re: [O] ox-html: stand-alone export option?

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Melanie Bacou m...@mbacou.com writes: You're right with Github or remote storages there's no problem (links to images like `./fig/my_fig.png` or local CSS or JS `./css/my_css_.css` are interpreted as usual. The problem is only on cloud storage services like Dropbox where each resource gets a

Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: What do you mean by outline prefixes? The think that comes to mind is `show-all'. In my Emacs: (define-obsolete-function-alias 'show-all 'outline-show-all 25.1) —Rasmus -- There are known knowns; there are things we know that we

Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: The think that comes to mind is `show-all'. In my Emacs: (define-obsolete-function-alias 'show-all 'outline-show-all 25.1) Ah right. That's the same idea. Functions without a namespace are being renamed. Regards,

Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: (define-obsolete-function-alias 'show-all 'outline-show-all 25.1) Ah right. That's the same idea. Functions without a namespace are being renamed. My Debian Squeeze VM has 23.4.1. ^^ Wheezy that is Actually, Debian 7.8 has a Emacs

Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Org 8.4 will drop support for Emacs 23, i.e., as soon as Org 8.3 is released, we can activate lexical binding on master. What is the rational behind Org 8.3 has Emacs 23 support; Org 8.4 does not. I'm just trying to understand. . . —Rasmus --

Re: [O] bug#19887: 24.4; Cannot kill buffer; Wrong type argument: overlayp, nil

2015-02-20 Thread Alexis
On 2015-02-20T18:32:12+1100, Damian Nadales said: DN That's weird. Which buffer are you killing, the DN Org buffer, or the new buffer that is created when pressing C-c ' DN inside the source block? Is the latter the one I cannot kill. DN I've only installed packages through the emacs DN

Re: [O] [patch] better(?) indention for cdlatex-environment

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: PS: Is that also why the outline prefixes are being added? It complains about it when you compile org. What do you mean by outline prefixes? Regards,

[O] What is Babel's relationship with a Lisp REPL? State or stateless?

2015-02-20 Thread Lawrence Bottorff
If I'm creating an org file in a buffer which has source blocks for, say, Lisp, then I can run these blocks of Lisp code and Babel will fill in the answer just below in my buffer. Good. As advertised. But what is really happening to this code? Does Babel invoke a Lisp REPL once, do the code, print

[O] bug#19887: 24.4; Cannot kill buffer; Wrong type argument: overlayp, nil

2015-02-20 Thread Damian Nadales
PMJI, but at http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/95159, Nicolas Goaziou said This should be fixed. Perhaps this bug report can simply be closed then ? If it's fixed, please close it. [Damian Nadales] Thanks for the fix. I must add that I discovered the bug by accident.

[O] [ox, patch] external compilation (was: External compilation)

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: I can move the call to Emacs as file variable s.t. # Local Variables: # eval: (unless (or user-init-file (window-system)) (load-file conf.el)) # End: A much better variable to check is `noninteractive', cf (info (elisp) Batch mode). Ideally,

[O] bug#19887: 24.4; Cannot kill buffer; Wrong type argument: overlayp, nil

2015-02-20 Thread Damian Nadales
Hi Eli, [Damian Nadales] That's weird. Which buffer are you killing, the Org buffer, or the new buffer that is created when pressing C-c ' inside the source block? Is the latter the one I cannot kill. There was no C-c ' in the recipe you posted. [Damian Nadales] No, it wasn't. Sorry

Re: [O] What is Babel's relationship with a Lisp REPL? State or stateless?

2015-02-20 Thread John Kitchin
I think it saves state, and remembers what has been done, at least as long as emacs is open. If you close emacs, it will forget everything, and you would have to rerun each block. You could tangle (or selectively tangle) the blocks out, to get an emacs-lisp file, which might then be a library you

Re: [O] Org agenda time table formatting reverses when loading zenburn theme

2015-02-20 Thread Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
Claudius Mueller writes: if I load a theme (such as zenburn) and then rebuild my agenda - the time table has changed: (i) the sorting of time is reversed, and (ii) tasks that were inline before are now sorted out of the time table (see arrow in both pictures). I do not use zenburn very

Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal

2015-02-20 Thread Samuel Wales
hi rasmus, On 2/20/15, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: I think everybody is thinking along the lines, but some people want to not have another link-morass :) In particular, I think we are trying hard to avoid this situation: i just think the syntax we design should, if possible, be so

Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal

2015-02-20 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Samuel, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: basically, i am concerned about syntax creep in the big picture and its downstream consequences. for example, it's more efficient to support, and for the user to remember, a single general syntax than a whole bunch of special syntaxes.

Re: [O] including files and org-src-preserve-indentation

2015-02-20 Thread Linus Arver
For the record, attached are the files for the ECM I used to test. -L On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 07:27:18PM -0800, Linus Arver wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 06:36:29PM +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Hello, Linus Arver linusar...@gmail.com writes: When I call

Re: [O] including files and org-src-preserve-indentation

2015-02-20 Thread Linus Arver
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 06:36:29PM +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Hello, Linus Arver linusar...@gmail.com writes: When I call org-publish-current-project, the included file's TAB characters automatically become converted into spaces. Is there an orgmode way of preventing this

Re: [O] [ox, patch] external compilation

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Ideally, what I would like would be to specify a per-file/project init file. Sort of like org-export-async-init-file, but as part of org-export-options-alist to get the init.el-dependency inside the

Re: [O] [ox, patch] external compilation

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Ideally, what I would like would be to specify a per-file/project init file. Sort of like org-export-async-init-file, but as part of org-export-options-alist to get the init.el-dependency inside the Org-file. It would be read when Org exports async or

Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal

2015-02-20 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Melanie, Melanie Bacou m...@mbacou.com writes: Just want to point out RMarkdown/Pandoc implementation of bibliographies and citations here http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/authoring_bibliographies_and_citations.html Thanks for joining the discussion! Actually, the Pandoc/RMarkdown syntax was

Re: [O] [ox, patch] external compilation

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Can't you simply set-up a publishing project? No this has the same issue as the Makefile. It's not as easy as latex. Setting up a publishing project is easy and well documented. I want *one* coherent file with all the necessary instructions, that can be edited

Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal

2015-02-20 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: AFAICT, the most advanced use of citations is Thomas', and he is basically only using subtype. So I'm pretty confident that 99.9% of users will be fine with only these subtypes. ... Again, I don't think we need {:key val} at the

Re: [O] What is Babel's relationship with a Lisp REPL? State or stateless?

2015-02-20 Thread Grant Rettke
Does this answer your question? http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-lisp.html#sec-3-2 I usually set up Scheme and R to keep a single buffer around with Racket or R running in them. I do work in there outside of org just like I do inside of org; figure stuff out and rely on

Re: [O] [ox, patch] external compilation

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: No this has the same issue as the Makefile. It's not as easy as latex. Setting up a publishing project is easy and well documented. So is Makefile. I want *one* coherent file with all the necessary instructions, that can be edited in

Re: [O] [ox, patch] external compilation

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: emacs --batch -Q -l conf.el --visit toexport.org -f org-latex-export-to-pdf That it hardcodes conf.el. So it doesn't toexport1.org which depends on config/conf.el. I want to specify the dependency in in toexport.org explicitly so that

Re: [O] [ox, patch] external compilation

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: How to I generalize this to a emacs --batch call from a random org file? What's wrong with emacs --batch -Q -l conf.el --visit toexport.org -f org-latex-export-to-pdf Regards,

Re: [O] how to get images support in Emacs on Windows?

2015-02-20 Thread Herbert Sitz
Ben yfefyf at gmail.com writes: You can download the corresponding dlls from ezwinports [fn:1] and put them into emacs's `bin` directory. There are some instructions in the Image support part on page [fn:2]. [fn:2] https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/ Strangely, the instructions and

Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal

2015-02-20 Thread Samuel Wales
On 2/20/15, Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu wrote: If there are others (John? Aaron? Samuel?) who think they really need the {:key val} syntax *over and above* a subtype designation, please speak up! i have no comments on citations per se. i just think the syntax we design

Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal

2015-02-20 Thread Rasmus
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: if everybody is already thinking along the same lines, great. I think everybody is thinking along the lines, but some people want to not have another link-morass :) In particular, I think we are trying hard to avoid this situation: i just think the