On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Nicolas Goaziou
I'm just pointing out an ergonomy (or consistency) annoyance in your
proposal. I'm not thrilled by faking the filling mechanism.
Well, that has nothing to do with consistency (neither with ergonomy,
unless you produce a large scale statistical
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Nicolas Goaziou
m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
How about adding the possibility to add hooks to org-fill-paragraph?
So that people can add extensions to fill as they want and the core
function can rely on org-element only?
You
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
to help me understand what kind of problems one could face with HTML (or
another back-end), could you give a concrete example?
line 1
line 2
\[1+1\]
==
p
line 1
line 2
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes:
Ignoring \[...\] when filling the paragraph is misleading. You may
believe the object doesn't belong to the paragraph at all. I think M-q
should, on the contrary, give clues about the structure of the document.
Also, it doesn't make a difference
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes:
Ignoring \[...\] when filling the paragraph is misleading. You may
believe the object doesn't belong to the paragraph at all. I think M-q
should, on the contrary, give clues about the structure of the document.
Also, it doesn't make a difference
without having to introduce the undesired Cons. The behavior is a
follows:
- if \[...\] is inline, behave as before.
- if \[ is the first non space character of a line and the closing \]
is the last non space character of a line (possibly spanning several
lines), then do not fill this region
:
Hello,
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
+ (save-excursion
+(org-mark-element)
+(org-indent-region (point) (mark
The function shouldn't set the mark. The following should be enough:
(let ((element (org-element-at-point)))
(when element
(org-indent-region (org
Attached you find a patch with the proposed modification. I would
greatly appreciate if you could consider it for inclusion in org-mode
and provide feedback.
Here a more lispy version of the function
`org-fill-paragraph-construct-regions' used in the patch.I guess it
could be more appealing to
The current proposal is to make them elements instead of objects in Org
syntax (i.e, a `latex-environment' instead of a `latex-fragment'). In
a nutshell:
- Pros:
+ conform to LaTeX intent,
+ impossible to fill.
- Cons:
- documents containing \[...\] mid-line will be broken
5. Existing documents are very easy to fix.
Backwards compatibility is important. It has been broken
before, for very good reasons, and even though it was done very
carefully, it still caused many problems (still does).
So I don't buy the very easy to fix part: it will bite somebody
two minutes
It's a bit more complicated than that: one upgrades org at some
opportune moment, then three months/years/centuries later, tries to use
that presentation that worked perfectly before - boom. If you go back
and check all your old presentations each time you upgrade org, you are,
I would guess,
I didn't read the other thread is details, but it seems the most
sensible thing to do is alter the org fill function(s). These seems
to rely on org-element, though, and I'm guessing that is why a syntax
change is necessary, yes?
I would be perfectly happy with this behavior. Can't comment on
Thanks for the suggestion. Please find attached the improved patch.
Regards,
Federico
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Nicolas Goaziou
m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Hello,
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
+ (save-excursion
+(org-mark-element)
+(org-indent-region (point
Who is entitled to vote? If I am then here is my vote in favor for the
following reasons:
1. the construct \[...\] has been defined in LaTeX for equations which
must stand out and therefore belong on separate lines. It would
therefore make sense to conform to the borrowed syntax.
2. the
Please find attached the patch as discussed.
Regards,
Fede
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
To be honest, I do not know. But, the original cdlatex-tab function
takes those parameters and I thought it would be a good idea
So what exactly is the problem?
The problem is that \[...\] is often used for long/complicated
equations. If you allow auto-fill to change/modify your carefully
written equation, it becomes very difficult to read.
Regards,
Fede
Hi,
Why those parameters?
the parameters are just in case you want to use this function
non-interactively in place of cdlatex-tab.
I'm not sure it's worth it. You can indent the element with M-h C-\
easily enough, no?
Because typing one key combination is faster than typing 3 and there
the parameters are just in case you want to use this function
non-interactively in place of cdlatex-tab.
Is there a real use-case for non-interactive use?
To be honest, I do not know. But, the original cdlatex-tab function
takes those parameters and I thought it would be a good idea to pass
In principle, to avoid breaking existing documents, you could
introduce a variable to set org-mode in legacy mode.
Regards,
Fede
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Hello,
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
In the end of the day the reason why I
.
Best Regards,
Fede
P.S.: I've attached for reference two pages, from the book written by
LaTeX's creator (the book I've mentioned on my first email), on how to
use the various mathematical constructs.
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org wrote:
I understand that. However
,
Fede
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Nicolas Goaziou
m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
Of course \[ 1+1 \] is valid LaTeX syntax, just as inline
\begin{displaymath} 1+1 \end{displaymath} is valid.
But \begin{displaymath} 1+1 \end{displaymath} isn't valid
Hi,
I'm a long time LaTeX user starting to use the excellent org-mode.
I've noticed what I believe is a wrong interpretation of the LaTeX
syntax by org-mode:
According to the LaTeX manual and reference LaTeX: A Document
Preparation System, L. Lamport, \[ ... \] is a short form for a
displaymath
Hi,
when you enable org-cdlatex and insert a LaTeX environment by pressing
M-{, the new environment is inserted ignoring indentation. To correct
for that it is not enough to press TAB as TAB is locally bound to
cdlatex-tab and moves the cursor to the next interesting part of the
environment.
For
...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Hello,
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
According to the LaTeX manual and reference LaTeX: A Document
Preparation System, L. Lamport, \[ ... \] is a short form for a
displaymath environment. Citing the reference:
... Because displayed equations are used so
Hi,
when I insert a LaTeX environment with the cdlatex keybinding C-{, the
environment is not properly indented as the rest of the text and the TAB
key is bound to the cdlatex functions. Is there a way to get it properly
aligned directly, without having to select the region and press TAB?
I
Hi,
is there any plan to make org-babel a minor-mode (similarly to orgtbl)?
Regards,
Fede
writing texts including a lot of mathematical expressions.
I guess I will have to dig into filters.
Regards,
Fede
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
jorge.a.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
Hi,
I would like to have a mathematical
($$, ...).
Regards,
Fede
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote:
Federico Beffa be...@ieee.org writes:
Hi,
I would like to have a mathematical equation typeset in latex and
automatically generated by sympy, embedded in an equation environment:
#+NAME: mass-energy
Suppose you want to use a program such as Sympy or Maxima to find
the analytic solution of a complicated equation. After this you want
to make use of that solution for numerical evaluation of various
cases.
Is it safe to use the analytic results (without using a session) in the
Hi,
I would like to have a mathematical equation typeset in latex and
automatically generated by sympy, embedded in an equation environment:
#+NAME: mass-energy
#+BEGIN_SRC python :results raw :exports results :wrap EQUATION
import sympy as sp
E, m, c = sp.symbols('E, m, c',
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