Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-04-12 Thread Bastien
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Keeping this variable a customize variable invites changes also by people who do not really know what they are doing. Turning it into a defvar or defconst and somewhere document how to hack around the restriction if you really

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-04-12 Thread Bastien
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: We can also use a very simple and tolerant regexp (e.g. =[^\000]+=), and introduce a syntax to escape markers for fine-grained control. FWIW this looks like the correct approach to me. -- Bastien

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-21 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: First of all, we should not see Org as just another plain text markup language (no offense meant, I am sure, and none taken). Because of its unique treatment of source code inclusion, source code markup, and executability, it is very

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-20 Thread zeltak
Hi again Thank you all for the responses. So as a neewb again, I dont really understand fully all the technical specifications from the above posts, what do you guys recommended i do if i want to start moving and using org now full time in terms of color support? should i use the current emp.

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-19 Thread Nicolas Richard
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Another example is the emphasis stuff. There are no in-buffer settings for it, and they would be pretty hard to make. An in-buffer way of doing elisp is File Local Variables ; or is that not appropriate ? Maybe the question I'm askign is : why

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi Z, can you show an example on how you use it? Maybe we can find a better way. Nicolas is right that portability is compromised by customizable emphasis. - Carsten On 18.3.2013, at 00:02, zeltak zel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all i just finished a great conversation on #org-mode with

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: can you show an example on how you use it? Maybe we can find a better way. Nicolas is right that portability is compromised by customizable emphasis. On 18.3.2013, at 00:02, zeltak zel...@gmail.com wrote: I find the ability to add custom

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread zeltak
Dear Carsten, Thank you for your quick reply. Let me start by first thanking you for your great work on orgmode, I only recently discovered it (someone referred me to your great talk on youtube) and it made me have the courage to start learning emacs and use orgmode. I (actually me and several

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread W. Greenhouse
zeltak zel...@gmail.com writes: Dear Carsten, Thank you for your quick reply. Let me start by first thanking you for your great work on orgmode, I only recently discovered it (someone referred me to your great talk on youtube) and it made me have the courage to start learning emacs and use

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia 2013-03-18, o godz. 15:21:54 wgreenho...@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) napisał(a): Perhaps a compromise could be reached on variables such as `org-emphasis-alist' and others possibly slated for the defconst treatment: instead of doing that, let's consider keeping them customizable but

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone, first a disclaimer: Nicolas has thought about all things parser a lot more than I have, so he might disagree. But here is my take on the issue. First of all, we should not see Org as just another plain text markup language (no offense meant, I am sure, and none taken). Because

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Rasmus
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: The reason why the emphasis regexp components were made configurable in the first place is because when the feature was introduced, I had no idea what would work, and I redesigned this part several times over. Emphasis is a very heuristic

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-18 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Carsten, Thank you for your very insightful thoughts. I would like to make one note. 2013ko martxoak 18an, Carsten Dominik-ek idatzi zuen: Now to the discussion with Z about additional emphasis definitions which he/she uses for custom highlighting of stuff. Right now this relies on

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-17 Thread zeltak
Hi all i just finished a great conversation on #org-mode with some great people. they told me about this thread and the planned changes that may or may not occur to the syntax and id like to just raise the newbee perspective. I find the ability to add custom emphasise with custom faces

[O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread Jambunathan K
David Engster d...@randomsample.de writes: Jambunathan K. writes: Still you haven't answered my Fudging the mail reply headers question to my satisfaction. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/message/Mailing-Lists.html A mailing list poster can use MFT to express that

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread David Engster
Jambunathan K. writes: I know that. But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga. Because Carsten started the thread and did not set MFT. -David

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread Jambunathan K
David Engster d...@randomsample.de writes: Jambunathan K. writes: I know that. But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga. Because Carsten started the thread and did not set MFT. In this very

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread David Engster
Jambunathan K. writes: David Engster d...@randomsample.de writes: Jambunathan K. writes: I know that. But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga. Because Carsten started the thread and did

Re: [O] [Out-of-Thread] Re: [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-14 Thread Jambunathan K
David Engster d...@randomsample.de writes: Jambunathan K. writes: David Engster d...@randomsample.de writes: Jambunathan K. writes: I know that. But that doesn't answer the question why Carsten will appear in the To header of a mail that I reply to a mail I receive from Eric S Fraga.