Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-28 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi Nicolas, As I announced in another thread, I'm starting a Beamer back-end for the new export engine. Though, before I start hacking, I have a question about environments. Will this new backend support presentations in subtrees? I think, what I want is not possible with the current one.

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-28 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Andreas Leha andreas.l...@med.uni-goettingen.de wrote: Will this new backend support presentations in subtrees?  I think, what I want is not possible with the current one. As an example, consider files structured like this: #+begin_src org *

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-28 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi suvayu ali, Hi Andreas, On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Andreas Leha andreas.l...@med.uni-goettingen.de wrote: Will this new backend support presentations in subtrees?  I think, what I want is not possible with the current one. As an example, consider files structured like this:

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-22 Thread Eric S Fraga
Nicolas, I'll keep headlines for blocks. But I think I'll introduce a couple of small changes. I really like all the changes you propose. The result would appear to be a clean design. I particularly like the defaulting of headlines to blocks. Unlike others, I am not bothered about *alert*

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-21 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: See `org-element-drag-backward' and `org-element-drag-forward'. Okay. Will it be easy to bind these to M-up etc. to achieve consistent behaviour? I.e. does org-metaup know what to do with blocks? I hope that, one day, they will replace

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-21 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: - There is no separate syntax for \alert{} command: it is the default output for bold objects (i.e. *text* becomes \alert{text}). Would bold then be archived with some other markup? Or would it just not be possible to get bold text (without

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-21 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Nicolas, First, a big thank you for your work on this as well... Here, inline, a couple of quick remarks... Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: See `org-element-drag-backward' and `org-element-drag-forward'. Okay. Will it be easy to bind these to M-up etc. to

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-21 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: - There is no separate syntax for \alert{} command: it is the default output for bold objects (i.e. *text* becomes \alert{text}). Would bold then be archived with some other markup? Or would it just not be possible to get bold text (without defaulting

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-21 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: The noframe tag sounds good. Do you have any example of the use you have in mind? I don't know what kind of contents one would like add between frames (excepted notes). - If you are to repeat frames - Imagine a complicated tikz picture which

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-21 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Nicolas, On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to try them out (there has been no serious debugging for them), you can  (defalias 'org-metaup 'org-element-drag-backward) `org-element-drag-backward' is a strict super-set for `org-metaup'.

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-21 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgwmuf-genee64ty+gs+fvcfc7...@public.gmane.org writes: - Sectioning and packages are extracted from `org-e-latex-classes'. Since calling Beamer back-end is explicit, it can be applied on any tex file, not only when that file starts with

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-20 Thread Greg Tucker-Kellogg
I also quite like using headlines for blocks, for many of the same reasons Eric mentioned. In addition, I regularly use column view to set BEAMER_env, BEAMER_envargs, BEAMER_extra, etc., and column view operates on headlines. Greg On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: Nicolas

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-20 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi all, Greg Tucker-Kellogg wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: Well, I will have to chime in with a contrary view. I like using headlines to define blocks, and I use blocks on almost

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-20 Thread Eric S Fraga
Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: [...] Personally, I dislike using headlines for *anything* that's in the frame. I like the idea that headlines do show the structure of your presentation: - (optionally) sections and subsections for the sidebar - frame title (and subtitle)

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-19 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: Well, I will have to chime in with a contrary view. I like using headlines to define blocks, and I use blocks on almost every frame. I have the following reasons for preferring a headline approach: - the proposed approach does not easily (at

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-18 Thread Daniel Bausch
Hi Nicolas, first of all, I think the block idea is a good one, as long a notes will remain headlines. Nevertheless I often had the problem in my documents, that I wanted to insert code between frames. It would be great, if you could provide a clean solution for such things, too.

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
Avdi Grimm gro...@inbox.avdi.org writes: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: With this syntax it would be very easy to write both really long (40-50 frames) as well as quick and short presentations. I've only been using Org and Beamer for a

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-18 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: As I announced in another thread, I'm starting a Beamer back-end for the new export engine. This is indeed good news. Here are some concerns that I would like to address compared to the current exporter. - Operating with pauses are overly hard.

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-18 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hello Rasmus, Rasmus wrote: - Operating with pauses are overly hard. One can specify overlays in properties, but n is just not very convenient, as I may have to introduce a new number jn. I prefer the pause, but it does not feel 'natural' in the current org-beamer (IMO). I

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-18 Thread Rasmus
Sebastien Vauban IIUC, you seem to say it's difficult to use the overlay notation, but you can use it very easily that way: ** Overlay effects \\ Keep the suspense! *** Time bomb:B_block: :PROPERTIES: :BEAMER_env: block

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-18 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Eric, On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: Avdi Grimm gro...@inbox.avdi.org writes: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com  wrote: With this syntax it would be very easy to write both really long (40-50 frames) as well

[O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-15 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, As I announced in another thread, I'm starting a Beamer back-end for the new export engine. Though, before I start hacking, I have a question about environments. I'm wondering if it is really interesting to have every environment set up from headlines. I understand it allows to use

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-15 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Nicolas, First a big thank you for all your efforts over the last year. On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if it is really interesting to have every environment set up from headlines. I understand it allows to use column view but, from

Re: [O] [dev] About a beamer back-end

2012-06-15 Thread Avdi Grimm
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:41 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: With this syntax it would be very easy to write both really long (40-50 frames) as well as quick and short presentations. I've only been using Org and Beamer for a little while, but if I understand it correctly