Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
Olaf Dietsche olaf+list.orgm...@olafdietsche.de writes: Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. [...] #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file :tags

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-24 Thread Olaf Dietsche
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: Olaf Dietsche olaf+list.orgm...@olafdietsche.de writes: Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. [...] #+BEGIN:

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Tommy Kelly
... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... Ermm, weekly :-) It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file just for your chronological report. Absolutely. But as I've been

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... Ermm, weekly :-) It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file just for your

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Olaf Dietsche
Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. I'm trying the tagging thing within clock tables, but I can't get it working at all. I've attached a tag to a single

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Olaf Dietsche wrote: Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. I'm trying the tagging thing within clock tables, but I can't

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Tommy Kelly
I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. Ah OK, that works. But it turns out there was a second problem and it may be a bug. It looks like any of the clocktable options after :indent get ignored. So this

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. Ah OK, that works. But it turns out there was a second problem and it may be a bug. It looks like any of the

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. Ah OK, that works. But it turns out there was a second problem and it may

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. Ah OK, that

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing around, it seems you need double quotes around

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Tommy Kelly
Probably, :indent was perceived by the code as nil, but at least it did not swallow the :tags key. It wasn't. I hadn't realized about the need for a value to the property, but if it's omitted then it looks like :indent's value is perceived as true, not nil (which is why I got on so long not

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... Ermm, weekly :-) It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file just for your

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... Ermm, weekly :-) Yes :) but if it's only for the next 3 weeks it's probably not worth the coding effort. If it's weekly for the indefinite future it might be. -Bernt

[O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
I'm trying to get org-mode to provide me with two things, but haven't found a way to do it. 1. First, I want to be able to use it like a daily engineering or science journal, logging notes as they occur, in pretty much linear fashion chronologically. Or, more to the point, I want to be able to

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: I'm trying to get org-mode to provide me with two things, but haven't found a way to do it. 1. First, I want to be able to use it like a daily engineering or science journal, logging notes as they occur, in pretty much linear fashion

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Olaf Dietsche
Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: I'm trying to get org-mode to provide me with two things, but haven't found a way to do it. 1. First, I want to be able to use it like a daily engineering or science journal, logging notes as they occur, in pretty much linear fashion

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
Olaf wrote: Maybe I misunderstand what you want to accomplish, but if you put your journal into a separate file (e.g. journal.org), ... That's pretty much what I want. But if I do that I then have trouble with getting sensible clock tables. For example, suppose I had: *** Headline about some

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
Bernt wrote: For item 1) can you use the display of inactive timestamps to get part of the information you want in the agenda and then visit the items with either follow mode (F) or manually visit each item with SPC to get more detail? Thanks. That's pretty much exactly my workaround now. So

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. I'm trying the tagging thing within clock tables, but I can't get it working at all. I've attached a tag to a single headline, and checked that I've got that right

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly tommy.ke...@verilab.com writes: Bernt wrote: For item 1) can you use the display of inactive timestamps to get part of the information you want in the agenda and then visit the items with either follow mode (F) or manually visit each item with SPC to get more detail? Thanks.