Re: [O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-13 Thread Daniel Clemente
El Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:25:25 +0100 Nicolas Goaziou va escriure: Of course everything's text, but if there's no distinction between drawers/headers and text, that's the problem. Those headers are metadata written and managed by org and must follow some rules, This is incorrect.

Re: [O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-13 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com writes: But these are technical details, not relevant to a non-programmer. Which basically means nothing, because everything ultimately boils down to technical details. What a new user sees with the default settings as of today is: Aren't you confusing

Re: [O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-13 Thread Daniel Clemente
El Sat, 13 Dec 2014 12:33:16 +0100 Nicolas Goaziou va escriure: But these are technical details, not relevant to a non-programmer. Which basically means nothing, because everything ultimately boils down to technical details. That's always true. But UIs still need to be simple. No

Re: [O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-13 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com writes: No need to teach the user the differences of a :CLOCK: vs a :PROPERTIES: or drawer vs. metadata. The difference is important, e.g., wrt export. Users who type can do a simpler distinction: 1. things you type yourself 2. things that

Re: [O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-12 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com writes: Of course everything's text, but if there's no distinction between drawers/headers and text, that's the problem. Those headers are metadata written and managed by org and must follow some rules, This is incorrect. :CLOCK: or :LOGBOOK: or whatever

Re: [O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel Clemente
Proposal: if text starts in column 0, don't move the text; move only the headers. Then, in this case, :CLOCK: drawer will not move either. Unless headers is defined as stuff not too far from the headline. But it is too vague to be usable. There no such thing as a your headers in

[O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel Clemente
There was a change (cba2f0a2a3024ae5bf71e1a12ba99778a92902a2, Sat Nov 8 14:35:24 2014 +0100) which made :CLOCK: etc entries shift to the right when the tree is being shifted to the right („demoted“, e.g. using M-S-Right). But now it changes from this: some :CLOCK:

Re: [O] demoting a heading inserts spaces in column-0 text

2014-12-05 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com writes: There was a change (cba2f0a2a3024ae5bf71e1a12ba99778a92902a2, Sat Nov 8 14:35:24 2014 +0100) which made :CLOCK: etc entries shift to the right when the tree is being shifted to the right („demoted“, e.g. using M-S-Right). But now it