Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Tim Cross writes: >> I don't see how that would possible once it is integrated in GNU emacs >> core, there will be no separate makefile or anything of that sort, but >> maybe I am missing something. >> > > There is going to have to be a way for people to maintain and build

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Tim Cross writes: > Just to throw my 2 cents in. > > While I can understand the benefits of being able to easily install the > latest org package via elpa, I think there are some significant benefits > to org being a part of core Emacs. > > I currently find three issues

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Bastien Guerry writes: > Hi Philip, > > phillip.l...@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> I presume you do see this as an advantage? The issue is, surely, >> that it's too much of a PITA for the advantage that you gain? > > Well, it's not really about PITA-or-not-PITA, it's

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Hi Robert, first of all, my bad: what I should have said in all these discussion is that any decision regarding moving Org to Emacs' core won't happen any time soon (I'd say two or three years). Keeping Emacs master branch in sync with Org maint branch is not a problem anymore, so the decision

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Uwe Brauer writes: "qTim" == qTim Cross writes: > >> Just to throw my 2 cents in. > >> 1. Problems with mixed versions. Currently, Emacs has org 8.x included >> in the distribution. This is despite 9.x being out before the release of >> 25.2.

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Indeed I admit that I might have exagerated when I called it "average". Please excuse my wrong doing. :)

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Adonay Felipe Nogueira writes: > I have just thought of some more advantages and disadvantages too. > > * Strengths > > ** One less split in development effort > > This one explains itself. Also, for a related article against "forking", > "bundling", and "reinventing the

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Also, all the issues related to updates and compatibility would be solved if more poeple used GNU Guix package manager. This way, GNU Emacs can integrate Org in its core, and use the "1 release per 9 months" cycle, and also could have package recipes pointing to arbitrary commits if there is a

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Bastien Guerry writes: > Hi Philip, > > phillip.l...@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> I presume you do see this as an advantage? The issue is, surely, >> that it's too much of a PITA for the advantage that you gain? > > Well, it's not really about PITA-or-not-PITA, it's just that I want

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

>>> "qTim" == qTim Cross writes: > Just to throw my 2 cents in. > 1. Problems with mixed versions. Currently, Emacs has org 8.x included > in the distribution. This is despite 9.x being out before the release of > 25.2. Something needs to be done to improve

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

I have just thought of some more advantages and disadvantages too. * Strengths ** One less split in development effort This one explains itself. Also, for a related article against "forking", "bundling", and "reinventing the wheel" practices, see

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 at 12:40, Bastien Guerry wrote: [...] > Well, it's not really about PITA-or-not-PITA, it's just that I want > org-mode to be the default mode for some files in Emacs, and having > org-mode in Emacs' core is the most simple way to go for this. This, I must admit, is quite

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Just to throw my 2 cents in. While I can understand the benefits of being able to easily install the latest org package via elpa, I think there are some significant benefits to org being a part of core Emacs. I currently find three issues with the current situation which may be somewhat

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Hi Philip, phillip.l...@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > I presume you do see this as an advantage? The issue is, surely, > that it's too much of a PITA for the advantage that you gain? Well, it's not really about PITA-or-not-PITA, it's just that I want org-mode to be the default mode for

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Bastien writes: > Hi Uwe, > > Uwe Brauer writes: > >> I am not sure whether I understand that discussion in emacs dev >> correctly. Will orgmode be moved into the GNU emacs try as it was done >> with gnus? > > for the record, I would be in favor of this. Why? > >

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

"ESF" == Eric S Fraga writes: ESF> On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 at 08:33, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> But the release cycles are very different, so in order to have always >> the latest stable org package, I need to compile and install the whole >> GNU emacs beast. I thought the whole idea

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 at 08:33, Uwe Brauer wrote: > But the release cycles are very different, so in order to have always > the latest stable org package, I need to compile and install the whole > GNU emacs beast. I thought the whole idea of a package system is to > avoid this headache. I

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

>>> "Bastien" == Bastien writes: > Hi Uwe, > Uwe Brauer writes: >> I am not sure whether I understand that discussion in emacs dev >> correctly. Will orgmode be moved into the GNU emacs try as it was done >> with gnus? > for the record,

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Hi Uwe, Uwe Brauer writes: > I am not sure whether I understand that discussion in emacs dev > correctly. Will orgmode be moved into the GNU emacs try as it was done > with gnus? for the record, I would be in favor of this. Why? - Less installation headaches - Less

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

>>> "Rasmus" == Rasmus writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: >> I am not sure whether I understand that discussion in emacs dev >> correctly. Will orgmode be moved into the GNU emacs try as it was done >> with gnus? > AFAIK, there are no such plans. The

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Uwe Brauer writes: > I am not sure whether I understand that discussion in emacs dev > correctly. Will orgmode be moved into the GNU emacs try as it was done > with gnus? AFAIK, there are no such plans. The *version* of Org shipped with Emacs is being updated to v9, though.

[O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Hi I am not sure whether I understand that discussion in emacs dev correctly. Will orgmode be moved into the GNU emacs try as it was done with gnus? If so, how can I download and test for example the current master branch. I didn't mind that policy for gnus, since the development is rather slow