Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-07 Thread Carsten Dominik
H no more entries. :-( Anyway, here is my entry, just to prove that N is 8 (at least for now), and also to show that perl can function as a write-only language. - Carsten #!/usr/bin/perl -p # taskpaper-to-org converter including #+TAGS setup in 239 bytes /^(\t*)-(.*?)((@\w+ *)*)$/; @u=grep{

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Carsten Dominik
:-) Prety good, but it does have a minor flaw, the line with several tags is emitted as ** TODO Task 2 :@work: :@boss: But I am sure this can be fixes within the N=9 envelope. - Carsten On Apr 4, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Egli Christian (KIRO 433) wrote: Anyone wants to take up the challenge?

RE: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Egli Christian (KIRO 433)
> Anyone wants to take up the challenge? What N can be achieved? Haha, it's Friday afternoon and I decided to take the challenge. I implemented a very simplistic and stupid translator which is quite small but just barely manages to pass the test. It does so with 480 bytes which makes for N = 9 (

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Bastien
Rick Moynihan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For example, you *might* be able to convince your mum to use Taskpaper > but there's no way she'd ever use Emacs and Org-mode. I'd prefer my mum not to use or send me todo-lists! Even with a Org syntax. I'd been 20 years now that I try to convince her

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Apr 3, 2008, at 5:14 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: I'm not convinced of it's worth either. But having more org files out in the wild would be nice :-) It's a shame Taskpaper doesn't just use a subset of org-mode's syntax really. R. Well, indeed not exactly the same, but very close. A way to

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-04 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Apr 3, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Manish wrote: Not worth it, IMHO. Thank $deity, Carsten and others that contribute to org-mode do not /have to/ do it. I wish they would spend their time having fun instead of worrying about increasing market share. I am certainly doing exactly that. - Carsten

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
Rick Moynihan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 3. Offer some kind of Easy org installation. >- Effectively a distro of Emacs tailored to Org-mode. >- Ship with an installer. >- Give it a catchier product name. IMO making sure that Emacs-W32 and Aquamacs always ship a current version of o

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Joel J. Adamson wrote: Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: > Emacs might be Org's greatest ally, but it's also simultaneously > Org's biggest problem. My point here, isn't to bash Emacs, it is > what it is, and it's damn good... But

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Bastien wrote: Rick Moynihan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It's a shame Taskpaper doesn't just use a subset of org-mode's syntax really. What would it be useful for? Using both TaskPaper and org-mode? I think people using TaskPaper are not likely to use org-mode and vice versa. No. Like

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Bastien
Rick Moynihan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's a shame Taskpaper doesn't just use a subset of org-mode's syntax > really. What would it be useful for? Using both TaskPaper and org-mode? I think people using TaskPaper are not likely to use org-mode and vice versa. I tend to agree some of th

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Joel J. Adamson
Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: > > Emacs might be Org's greatest ally, but it's also simultaneously > > Org's biggest problem. My point here, isn't to bash Emacs, it is > > what it is, and it's damn good... But with apologies to

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Tim O'Callaghan
To be honest when i first read it i thought it was a good idea. I saw it as an extension of your splitting the big org file into the smaller include files in the git repo. > > What people miss when they are new to Org-mode is this: > > Don't try to set up the "final" task managing system from th

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Manish wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: > Eddward DeVilla wrote: > > > I guess the best way to address this problem might be to document up > > front that org-mode uses a simple, readable, text only format and that > > all of the features can be used indepen

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Manish
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote: > Eddward DeVilla wrote: > > > I guess the best way to address this problem might be to document up > > front that org-mode uses a simple, readable, text only format and that > > all of the features can be used independently of each o

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-03 Thread Rick Moynihan
Eddward DeVilla wrote: I guess the best way to address this problem might be to document up front that org-mode uses a simple, readable, text only format and that all of the features can be used independently of each other but that they do interact well together. (It's been a while since I've sc

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Clint Laskowski
You got me! April Fools! -- Clint (aka Carsten) On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Sven Bretfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > > Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The important point I would like to make here is that for all > > intents and purposes, Org-mode *is* taskpaper!

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hi Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The important point I would like to make here is that for all > intents and purposes, Org-mode *is* taskpaper! Here is what I think: Carsten *is* Clint! This was a very well planned, long prepared, identity-shifting and, indeed, very nasty April

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Apr 1, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Eddward DeVilla wrote: To be honest, if I were looking for an outliner today as I was when I found org-mode, I might have been scared off. Org-mode has gotten very big. Sometimes I am wondering: what do you mean when it has gotten big? How do you measure it? One

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Eddward DeVilla
To be honest, if I were looking for an outliner today as I was when I found org-mode, I might have been scared off. Org-mode has gotten very big. But as you said, the easy things are easy. There are a great many feature in org-mode that I have not used nor have I had time to learn to use. They

Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Russell Adams
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 12:28:37PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > Dear all, > > I hope that you will all forgive me my little joke. It worked so > well because there is a certain amount of truth in the matter, of > course, and I would like to address this in a more serious > manner. You got

[Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

2008-04-01 Thread Carsten Dominik
Dear all, I hope that you will all forgive me my little joke. It worked so well because there is a certain amount of truth in the matter, of course, and I would like to address this in a more serious manner. Org-mode has indeed become very feature-rich in the run of the years. However, while