[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Richard Riley
Rémi Vanicat vani...@debian.org writes: Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com writes: You have no idea how pleased I am to hear you say that ... I sometimes wondered if I should go back to notepad ;) When asking the #emacs irc it seemed I was the only one in the world that constantly had issues.

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Dan Davison
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Dan Davison wrote: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this sound much harder than it needs to be, and I

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Dan Davison wrote: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Giovanni Ridolfi
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Dan Davison wrote: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly.

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Sebastian Rose
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: org-install would figure out where org.el is, add to .emacs and query for compilation. This wouod make things independent from make and other tools. Yes I wondered about making something like that yesterday (would it make sense to have emacs

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Dan Davison
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: org-install would figure out where org.el is, add to .emacs and query for compilation. This wouod make things independent from make and other tools. Yes I wondered about making something like

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Sebastian Rose
Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: org-install would figure out where org.el is, add to .emacs and query for compilation. This wouod make things independent from make and other tools.

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Richard Riley
Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is an entry-barrier for new Org users. For

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Dan Davison
Hi Richard, Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com writes: Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Dan Davison wrote: Hi Richard, Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com writes: Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Richard Riley
Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: Hi Richard, Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com writes: Info files are the issue. The addition to the infopath of the new info files is frequently an issue too. I say that because emacs info is my nemesis : I have never *properly* understood the way

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is an entry-barrier for new Org users. For

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Dan Davison
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is an

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: OK, so we're agreed. But your points below don't seem to describe a less technical route. Could you describe the less technical version of the instructions for the method that you are advocating? Installing is something technical and I'm a tech-head,

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Adam
On Monday 27 September 2010 02:52 am, Dan Davison wrote: Hi Richard, Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com writes: Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com writes: You have no idea how pleased I am to hear you say that ... I sometimes wondered if I should go back to notepad ;) When asking the #emacs irc it seemed I was the only one in the world that constantly had issues. Of course mentioning Debian immediately