Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-13 Thread Charles Cave
pete phillips wrote: I genuinely think that if there is a band of org-moders (hmmm we could do with a cooler collective noun I think ?) How about ORG-MONGERS? Charles ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-13 Thread Bastien
Charles Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about ORG-MONGERS? Org-wonks! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-12 Thread John Wiegley
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, let me say that I was surprised that quite a few people are so keen to see this kind of features. I myself would worry a lot about spending more time to set up and maintain these connections, than I would be saving by using them. And I am not

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-12 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
pete phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: org-mode developed as a means of maintaining lists, and it excels at this. Just because the GTD methodology uses the term Project doesn't mean that we should turn org-mode into a fully fledged project planning application. If you need project planning

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread Bastien
Eddward DeVilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's hard to 'address' a todo item. Not that hard: [[*Test%20headline]] Link's might be the best thing we have for that. Exactly! And what if the text of the link could also store the todo state value of its target (when both relevant and

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread Russell Adams
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 01:44:11PM +0100, Bastien wrote: Eddward DeVilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's hard to 'address' a todo item. Not that hard: [[*Test%20headline]] How does that work to address this case? * Hardware ** TODO Install * Software ** TODO Install :ADDRESSTHISONE: *

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone, I have read this discussion with great interest, and I would like to add a few thoughts. First, let me say that I was surprised that quite a few people are so keen to see this kind of features. I myself would worry a lot about spending more time to set up and maintain these

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread Bastien
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have read this discussion with great interest, and I would like to add a few thoughts. I guess some of us were waiting for that -- thanks for sorting this out :) First, let me say that I was surprised that quite a few people are so keen to see

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread pete phillips
Carsten == Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carsten First, let me say that I was surprised that quite a few Carsten people are so keen to see this kind of features. I myself Carsten would worry a lot about spending more time to set up and Carsten maintain these

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread Sebastjan Trepca
Hey, I'm new here but I have to say that I totally agree with Pete. Why not just work on integration with popular project management tools? e.g export to Jira, Trac, ... (btw, syncing todos with Trac tickets would really come handy :) Sebastjan On 10/11/07, pete phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread pete phillips
Russell == Russell Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell however you must realize that a tool meant to maintain Russell personal lists of items may eventually grow to encompass Russell larger projects. :-) I do realise this. But the question that needs to be answered is whether

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread Russell Adams
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 06:10:50PM +0100, pete phillips wrote: I do realise this. But the question that needs to be answered is whether this is necessarily the best path ? It isn't necessarily. I'm just pointing out it's likely to grow as more folks use it for larger lists. After all, most PM

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread Bastien
Russell Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the key here is that Org needs some PM-like functionality, but I certainly wouldn't advocate trying to make Org a full PM. Org is great for lists, notes, TODO's, etc. Ever try to take freeform notes in MS Project? ;] I'm interested to see

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-11 Thread pete phillips
Russell == Russell Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell It isn't necessarily. I'm just pointing out it's likely to Russell grow as more folks use it for larger lists. After all, most Russell PM software just maintains a specialized kind of list. Russell Yes I've looked at

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-10 Thread Bastien
Eddward DeVilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If org becomes popular enough that people pass data around in it, then it could be more of an issue. Especially since I think the triggers would be in drawers which are all always hidden unless you go and explicitly open each one. The pool of

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-09 Thread Bastien
Eddward DeVilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not really trying to deal with linear C depends and B which depends on A type things. Those are easy. I don't really need org to change the states for me. Okay, but this was Rainer initial request. It's more like, work can't even begin E until

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-09 Thread Bastien
Russell Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to Gantt, lets just dump trees into Graphviz! Gantt charts could be achieved with TRIGGER/BLOCKER, trees would requires GUID and labels. Am I right? -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember:

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-09 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Oct 8, 2007, at 22:12, Russell Adams wrote: I don't use links often... If I could have a link to another TODO item, but have the visible portion of the link display the status of the target TODO item. Ie: * Things to do in reverse order ** TODO One ** TODO Two ** DONE Three *

[Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Rainer Stengele
Hi! Having a TODO which depends on an earlier TODO I would like to trigger the timestamped scheduling of the following TODO when the former is DONE. How do you folks handle such dependencies? Could any automatic process be implemented? * TODO job 1 SCHEDULED: 2007-10-12 Fr * TODO job 2

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Denis Bueno
On 10/8/07, Rainer Stengele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Having a TODO which depends on an earlier TODO I would like to trigger the timestamped scheduling of the following TODO when the former is DONE. I second this request. I often like to schedule a workflow where task A must precede B

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Russell Adams
I know I'm replying to myself, but I had an idea. If a link could show the state of a linked TODO, that would make for a good visualization. I could then follow the link and just adjust my order to account for dependencies. It sounds like a more permanent agenda view that you could edit to get

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Eddward DeVilla
I've been waiting to see if org might develop something like todo dependency ordering. Seems like one could use this with and estimated time to complete a todo item to generate a milestone table or more easily estimate how long a group of tasks will require to complete or when the soonest a

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Bastien
Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - if A changes to DONE, change B from BLOCKED to NEXT (this is the obvious one) - if A changes to DONE, change B from NEXT to CANCELLED (if only A or B needs to be done, not both) There must be others people can think of easily. Updating

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Bastien
Eddward DeVilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My only real issue is that I tend to think of task dependencies in terms of the other tasks a given task is waiting on rather than what other tasks are waiting on a given task. Ok, then: * Task A * Task B :PROPERTIES: :TODO: {TODO 'previous

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Eddward DeVilla
On 10/8/07, John Wiegley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about just having generalized Lisp triggers: [snip] This could be dangerous. Org file are (most) text. The more code you allow to be embedded, the more of a vector org-mode becomes for trojan horse attacks. Of course I've been using lisp

Re: [Orgmode] depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically

2007-10-08 Thread Russell Adams
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:35:33PM -0500, Eddward DeVilla wrote: On 10/8/07, Russell Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In projects, my sections are - quick info -- a table with things like defect or request tracking info, start date, estimated time, date testing begins and date actually