Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-03-19 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Bastien Guerry writes: > Discourse is nice but I'm not favor of installing an instance for Org. > > Beginners often ask questions on reddit.com and stackoverflow.com (and > perhaps elsewhere): perhaps some regular users of these websites could > serve as "contributors stewards", redirecting inter

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-28 Thread c.buhtz
On 2022-02-27 18:17 Bastien Guerry wrote: > My gut feeling is that we should focus on making the mailing list more > accessible for beginners, more useful for everyone before considering > setting up another communication channel. I totally agree with that.

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-27 Thread Timothy
Hi Tim, > +1. We cannot possibly support every userโ€™s preferred platform. Besides, > didnโ€™t Discord just do an IPO? This increases the likelihood the Not Discord, /Discourse/ โ€” , . Itโ€™s basically a good self-hostable OSS forum,

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-27 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien Guerry writes: > > Discourse is nice but I'm not favor of installing an instance for Org. > > Beginners often ask questions on reddit.com and stackoverflow.com (and > perhaps elsewhere): perhaps some regular users of these websites could > serve as "contributors stewards", redirecting i

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-27 Thread Bastien Guerry
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Some time ago, Timothy shared an idea of creating a discourse forum at > orgmode.org. Discourse is FOSS and provides a familiar interface + > ability to create and tag topics. The question is integration with Org > ML, but I am pretty sure that discourse might be much eas

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-27 Thread Bastien
Jean Louis writes: > Maybe you could make XMPP group for Org move on chat.orgmode.org and > let people hoping through various Jabber/XMPP applications. There are already IRC channels for discussion in real time, I don't think setting up another way to have live discussions is worth the maintaina

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-26 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jean Louis writes: > Thanks, that will help new users to communicate. ๐Ÿ‘ > > Maybe you could make XMPP group for Org move on chat.orgmode.org and let > people hoping through various Jabber/XMPP applications. Some time ago, Timothy shared an idea of creating a discourse forum at orgmode.org. Disc

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-26 Thread Jean Louis
Thanks, that will help new users to communicate. ๐Ÿ‘ Maybe you could make XMPP group for Org move on chat.orgmode.org and let people hoping through various Jabber/XMPP applications. On February 26, 2022 8:58:31 AM UTC, Bastien wrote: >c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > >> 3. This site does not make cl

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-26 Thread Bastien
Hi Russell, Russell Adams writes: > I'm not sure what a clear answer is here. I don't like having any > mention of Github and non-free services myself, but I respect that we > need to support the maintainers and that may require using common > services. I reckon this is often a matter of trade-

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-26 Thread Bastien
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > And on the Worg page (which is "official" from the new users point > of view) there is also a GitHub link. This should be fixed with this commit: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg/commit/584d5e023f4ec47e32bcc24acc38e0ef0bf6d07a -- Bastien

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-26 Thread Bastien
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Russell Adams writes: > >> https://orgmode.org/ is administered by Org maintainers. I'm not sure >> where that repo is, and it's not publicly writable. Suggesting edits >> for that site is certainly appropriate on this mailing list. > > It is https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgwe

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-26 Thread Bastien
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > 3. This site does not make clear how to submit bug reports. Indeed! I've now added the email address of the mailing list on the https://orgmode.org home page, it is good to have it here. Thanks for raising this issue. -- Bastien

Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github (was: Communication problems and possible problems with the website)

2022-02-25 Thread Michael Powe
Hello, There's an old joke, that C allows you to blow your own foot off, and C++ allows you to blow off the whole leg. The FSF is like the C++ of the free software world. Whatever your feelings about PayPal - I avoid it like plague - it's ubiquitous in the web world of donations. In fact, you

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Russell Adams
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 02:24:53PM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Dear Ihor > > Am 25.02.2022 15:18 schrieb Ihor Radchenko: > > Org has no official GitHub page. This is partially a requirement from > > Free Software Foundation: > > https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#References > >

Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github (was: Communication problems and possible problems with the website)

2022-02-25 Thread Ihor Radchenko
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > Am 25.02.2022 15:18 schrieb Ihor Radchenko: >> Org has no official GitHub page. This is partially a requirement from >> Free Software Foundation: >> https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#References > > I totally and absolute support that FSF requirement. > >

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Russell Adams
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:48:17PM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Am 25.02.2022 13:30 schrieb Ihor Radchenko: > > If you think that the current wording is confusing, please point out > > which parts. We are pretty much blind here on the potential issues for > > the newcomers (for obvious reason

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread c . buhtz
Dear Ihor Am 25.02.2022 15:18 schrieb Ihor Radchenko: Org has no official GitHub page. This is partially a requirement from Free Software Foundation: https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#References I totally and absolute support that FSF requirement. In that case I would say org-

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Ihor Radchenko
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > The text in the buffer after M-x org-submit-bugreport says in the first > line "You are about to submit a bug report to the Org mailing list". > This does not explain how this is done. As a (very fresh not Emacs > familiar) user I wouldn't assume that I have to setup

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Russell Adams
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:38:24PM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > Am 25.02.2022 13:25 schrieb Russell Adams: > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:29:38AM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > >> This site does not make clear how to submit bug reports. It even does > > I was looking here: https://orgmode.o

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Russell Adams writes: > https://orgmode.org/ is administered by Org maintainers. I'm not sure > where that repo is, and it's not publicly writable. Suggesting edits > for that site is certainly appropriate on this mailing list. It is https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgweb/ Timothy, would you mind adding

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread c . buhtz
Am 25.02.2022 13:30 schrieb Ihor Radchenko: If you think that the current wording is confusing, please point out which parts. We are pretty much blind here on the potential issues for the newcomers (for obvious reason - we are too familiar with Org). Pointing to the confusing parts would help a l

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread c . buhtz
Dear Russell, thank your for the explanations and taking my issues into account. Am 25.02.2022 13:25 schrieb Russell Adams: On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:29:38AM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: This site does not make clear how to submit bug reports. It even does not make clear that the "way" is

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Ihor Radchenko
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > I accept that most of you does the work in your unpayed free time and > that each project has it's own "vibes" and ways to do things. > I just wan't to show you my experience with my tries to communicate with > the project. It is not my goal to vent my anger; and I ev

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Russell Adams
Just to start, honest critical feedback is just fine. Thank you for not being negative. ;] On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:29:38AM +, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: > This website has a lot of deadlinks. > https://orgmode.org/worg/exporters/ox-overview.html Worg is community written and maintained. I've

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Dear Christian, c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > [...thanks...] > This site does not make clear how to submit bug reports. Easy. Ask here by mail. It is same for other issues. Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee -- ^๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค _ๆ•‘ๆฟŸ่’ผ็”Ÿ_ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค_^))//

Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-25 Thread c . buhtz
Hello together, I accept that most of you does the work in your unpayed free time and that each project has it's own "vibes" and ways to do things. I just wan't to show you my experience with my tries to communicate with the project. It is not my goal to vent my anger; and I even have no anger