Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Thorsten First thank you very much for creating outshine. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > I'm not sure how orgstruct-mode does it, but since outshine is a minor > mode, it cannot use Key bindings exactly like Org, since many of these > are used in

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: Hello Micheal, > My requirements for orgstruct-mode or its replacement are very limited > compared to what orgstruct-mode or outshine.el do or intend to do: > 4) Key bindings exactly like Org > All items 3)..7) are supported in orgstruct-mode,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Michael Brand wrote: > 6) No syntax highlighting of headings To get the above behavior of orgstruct-mode in outshine for programming modes I added outshine-fontify. It makes me ready to let orgstruct-mode go. outshine-fontify is a

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: > I assume in the above sentence you meant that a comment to be a > heading has not to be indented. Well, yes and no. On my config, " ;;; test" is highlighted as a heading, but it's only foldable as ";;; test". > That is at least what I

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

i wrote this a long time ago to summarize the different options for editing notes in org. warning: it might make zero sense to you. maybe it will be useful to somebody. === sometimes you want the notes to stay in your external file (example: whatever.el). but edit them in org mode. orgstruct

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hello, Carsten Dominik writes: > I am glad you are not planning to remove orgtbl-mode. In particular, in > connection with radio tables, it is a feature that I use constantly, so I > would object strongly to removing it. Of course. "orgtbl-mode" is nice and certainly shouldn't

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Adam On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > ;; Regular comment > ;;; Heading level 1 > Heading level 2 > ... > > Then any comment that starts with 3 or more semicolons is indented to > the left edge and becomes a collapsible heading, regardless of the

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Rasmus On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Rasmus wrote: > FWIW, I use similar patterns, > > ;; outline-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" > ;; orgstruct-heading-prefix-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" Thank you, I will try that out. Michael

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Adam Thank you for all the explanations that I will study and try later. Especially the origami package looks very useful to me. Michael

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: > orgstruct-mode supports it with orgstruct-heading-prefix-regexp set to > for example " *;;;* ". FWIW, I use similar patterns, ;; outline-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" ;; orgstruct-heading-prefix-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" Rasmus -- This is

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: Hi Michael, > First thank you for taking over maintenance of outshine.el from > Thorsten Jolitz. Well, I figured it was the least I could do, since he's put so much effort into outshine, outorg, and navi-mode over the years. Be advised,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Adam First thank you for taking over maintenance of outshine.el from Thorsten Jolitz. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > Rasmus writes: > >> I also would like to see a minor-mode for Org-like cycling when using >> outline-minor-mode, as

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Rasmus writes: > I also would like to see a minor-mode for Org-like cycling when using > outline-minor-mode, as I use this feature in init.el. Outshine provides this feature. In my init file, I have headers like: Org And when I press TAB with point on that line, it

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Nicolas, Thanks for bringing this up. > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Here is > the rationale: Ugh, I use it in init.el and for emails, but it doesn’t work great in message-mode anyway. I miss list handling. Supposedly, you can get Emacs to handle lists,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Here is > the rationale: > > 1. It is broken. It might look like using Org in another buffer, but it >is not. In particular, it just cannot cope with lists,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Thanks for pointing out speed keys in outshine.el that I was not aware of. However I still failed. My requirements for orgstruct-mode or its replacement are very limited compared to what orgstruct-mode or outshine.el do or intend to do: 1) Only headings, no lists 2) No structure editing, only

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Nicolas, I have not problems with removing orgstruct-mode, it is indeed a bad hack and I am no longer using it. I am glad you are not planning to remove orgtbl-mode. In particular, in connection with radio tables, it is a feature that I use constantly, so I would object strongly to removing

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Nicolas, 2017ko abuztuak 20an, Nicolas Goaziou-ek idatzi zuen: > > Hello, > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. FWIW, +1 from me. I often bumped up against org-struct related difficulties when coding on org, and I can easily imagine that removing it will make

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:00 AM Michael Brand wrote: > Hi all > > If I understand correctly orgstruct-mode has much more convenient key > bindings like TAB and its variants for cycling than outshine.el or > outline-minor-mode which is a big advantage for me. When

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 9:58 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Like many others who replied here, I also do not use Org Struct. So its removal will have no effect on my workflow. > 5. There are

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Tuesday, 22 Aug 2017 at 08:58, Marcin Borkowski wrote: [...] > Out of curiosity: did anyone consider using lentic > (https://github.com/phillord/lentic) for that? I did look at this in the past but it seemed overkill for emails... and I use babel when programming otherwise so don't really

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi all, I'm in a similar situation - I only use Org-struct for my init.el, I'm fine with dropping it. On 2017-08-21, at 07:47, Jarmo Hurri wrote: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use >> it,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Nicolas Goaziou writes: I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Like others, I only use Org Struct mode to get some Org-like list handling and such when I'm writing email, and as Nicolas observes, it barely works. So I'm OK with this,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hello. I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use it, especially for emails. I now simply change the mode to org, write whatever content I want, and then switch back to message mode to send my email. [...] I do exactly as Eric says here. Actually, I didn't knew about

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi all If I understand correctly orgstruct-mode has much more convenient key bindings like TAB and its variants for cycling than outshine.el or outline-minor-mode which is a big advantage for me. When point is on a heading also the other key bindings are just the same as in Org mode. This was my

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Eric S Fraga writes: > I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use > it, especially for emails. I now simply change the mode to org, write > whatever content I want, and then switch back to message mode to send > my email. Works fine and gives me the

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

I agree too, because the OrgStruct mode functions is so limited for basic Org-mode viewing/editing/navigating etc. [stardiviner] GPG key ID: 47C32433 IRC(freeenode): stardiviner Twitter: @numbchild Key fingerprint = 9BAA 92BC CDDD B9EF 3B36 CB99 B8C4 B8E5

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

One of the reasons I moved to using mu4e for email was because I was told I could use orgStruct mode and write my email using org structured editing. The reality has been somewhat disappointing. One of the main things I wanted was better handling of lists and this is one area of orgstruct mode

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use it, especially for emails. I now simply change the mode to org, write whatever content I want, and then switch back to message mode to send my email. Works fine and gives me the full power of org. -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On 08/20/2017 09:57 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Here is > the rationale: > I use OrgStruct in my configuration files, but it is so limited that I've been slowly moving my configuration to Org files. It is frustrating that

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

I have been using org-mode for a few years now, but have never yet noticed org-struct mode. So removing org-struct would be no loss for me (and possibly a gain, if it eased ongoing org-mode maintenance and development). OTOH I certainly do use and appreciate orgtbl minor mode, and it would