Re: Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions?

2023-08-11 Thread Jens Schmidt
On 2023-08-11 23:48, Ihor Radchenko wrote: - If you run into this issue, the real pain is to understand what's going on, since org-ctags might get loaded in surprising ways. So probably we should make that easier. The quick fix is unsetting `help-enable-completion-autoload'.

Re: Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions?

2023-08-11 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Jens Schmidt writes: > - If you run into this issue, the real pain is to understand what's >going on, since org-ctags might get loaded in surprising ways. So >probably we should make that easier. The quick fix is unsetting `help-enable-completion-autoload'. And I do not think that we

Re: Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions?

2023-08-11 Thread Jens Schmidt
On 2023-08-11 19:01, Nick Dokos wrote: Sure, but we should not reject Jens' proposal just because of this argument. We can use the suggestions to improve org-ctags itself, after it is explicitly loaded. Absolutely. My disagreement was only with the part that I quoted, in particular the

Re: Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions?

2023-08-11 Thread Nick Dokos
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Nick Dokos writes: > >>> ... >>> Probably the problem is not the side-effects done by loading >>> =org-ctags=, but rather that these hook function from =org-ctags= try >>> to do their job when the environment is not really ready for them, >>> i.e. when there is no known

Re: Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions?

2023-08-11 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Nick Dokos writes: >> ... >> Probably the problem is not the side-effects done by loading >> =org-ctags=, but rather that these hook function from =org-ctags= try >> to do their job when the environment is not really ready for them, >> i.e. when there is no known tag file around. >> ... > > I

Re: Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions?

2023-08-10 Thread Nick Dokos
Jens Schmidt writes: > On 2023-08-08 10:48, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > ... > Probably the problem is not the side-effects done by loading > =org-ctags=, but rather that these hook function from =org-ctags= try > to do their job when the environment is not really ready for them, > i.e. when there

Re: Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions? (was: Should we accept breaking changes ...)

2023-08-09 Thread Jens Schmidt
On 2023-08-08 10:48, Ihor Radchenko wrote: The situation is a bit more complex. To make it even more complex, here a different point of view. Sorry, I don't have any earlier mails ready I could reply to ... * TL;DR Probably the problem is not the side-effects done by loading =org-ctags=,