Hi Jarmo,
Jarmo Hurri writes:
> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can
> not find the file
>
> scripts/ditaa.jar
It still lives here: https://orgmode.org/worg/code/scripts/ (I forgot
to
And perhaps maintain the table in elpa?
On 5/11/21 7:52 AM, TEC wrote:
Tim Cross writes:
I also had to install textlive, plantuml, graphviz, taskjuggler,
ledger, sqlite and many other things.
Perhaps it would be good to make a table of
| software | needed for | package name | download page
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 at 11:23 PM
> From: "Arthur Miller"
> To: "Christopher Dimech"
> Cc: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" , "Jarmo Hurri"
> , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
>
> Christop
Christopher Dimech writes:
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 at 5:30 PM
>> From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide"
>> To: "Arthur Miller"
>> Cc: "Jarmo Hurri" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
>>
>&
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 at 5:30 PM
> From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide"
> To: "Arthur Miller"
> Cc: "Jarmo Hurri" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
>
>
> Arthur Miller writes:
>
> > Exactly
Arthur Miller writes:
> Exactly, so it is enough to just download a single file and point your
> org to it with one `setq' in your init file. So it does not need a
> pacakge managmenet on os level.
Package management is how users should install software. Otherwise you
quickly reach the point
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
> Arthur Miller writes:
>
>> Jarmo Hurri writes:
>>
>>> Greetings.
>>>
>>> "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
>>>
Arthur Miller writes:
> By the way, how difficult is to download one file from the internet
> (ditaa.jar) if you are an
Arthur Miller writes:
> Jarmo Hurri writes:
>
>> Greetings.
>>
>> "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
>>
>>> Arthur Miller writes:
>>>
By the way, how difficult is to download one file from the internet
(ditaa.jar) if you are an user?
>>>
>>> That’s not the point. The point is that
Jarmo Hurri writes:
> Greetings.
>
> "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
>
>> Arthur Miller writes:
>>
>>> By the way, how difficult is to download one file from the internet
>>> (ditaa.jar) if you are an user?
>>
>> That’s not the point. The point is that every single user with a ditaa
>>
Greetings.
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
> Arthur Miller writes:
>
>> By the way, how difficult is to download one file from the internet
>> (ditaa.jar) if you are an user?
>
> That’s not the point. The point is that every single user with a ditaa
> block has to do it.
>
> Ask the
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 11:41:48AM +0200, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> I have Java, but not ditaa, because Java is packaged in my distribution
> and ditaa is not. My build pipelines use ditaa as shipped with
> org-mode.
My opinion is that Org has integration for many external tools, but
Arthur Miller writes:
> I don't think that would be the case. Java is considered unsafe software
> so I wouldn't rely on older versions being pre-installed and avialable
> everywhere.
Java is not considered unsafe software — not any more than any
interpreted language. What’s unsafe are Java
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
> Arthur Miller writes:
>
>> Christopher Dimech writes:
>>
>>> If org-mode wants to support ditaa, it is a requirement to inform the user
>>> how to
>>> get the software and install it. Moving into into a separate repository
>>> without
>>> appropriately
> I find it harder to write good
> documentation than good code!
Yes indeed, takes so much more time than to just write the code :).
TEC writes:
> Tim Cross writes:
>
>> I also had to install textlive, plantuml, graphviz, taskjuggler,
>> ledger, sqlite and many other things.
>
> Perhaps it would be good to make a table of
>
> | software | needed for | package name | download page |
>
> and/or prompt users when an action
Arthur Miller writes:
> Christopher Dimech writes:
>
>> If org-mode wants to support ditaa, it is a requirement to inform the user
>> how to
>> get the software and install it. Moving into into a separate repository
>> without
>> appropriately telling the user introduces the problem that
TEC writes:
> Tim Cross writes:
>
>> I also had to install textlive, plantuml, graphviz, taskjuggler,
>> ledger, sqlite and many other things.
>
> Perhaps it would be good to make a table of
>
> | software | needed for | package name | download page |
Maybe there could be a hash table where
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
> Java is available in my distribution, ditaa is not. Removing ditaa from
> org means that I have to do manual installation and configuration, while
> with ditaa bundled, org-mode can simply note that I need java installed.
>
>> If we bundle it, we also need
>> To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide"
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
>>
>> "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
>>
>> > Russell Adams writes:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, May 10, 2021 a
Tim Cross writes:
> I also had to install textlive, plantuml, graphviz, taskjuggler,
> ledger, sqlite and many other things.
Perhaps it would be good to make a table of
| software | needed for | package name | download page |
and/or prompt users when an action requiring another executable
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
>
> Tim Cross writes:
>> I agree. As pointed out already, just bundling the jar file is not
>> sufficient as you need a java runtime as well.
>
> Java is available in my distribution, ditaa is not. Removing ditaa from
> org
Tim Cross writes:
> I agree. As pointed out already, just bundling the jar file is not
> sufficient as you need a java runtime as well.
Java is available in my distribution, ditaa is not. Removing ditaa from
org means that I have to do manual installation and configuration, while
with ditaa
Nick Dokos writes:
> Jarmo Hurri writes:
>
>> Greetings.
>>
>> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
>> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can
>> not find the file
>>
>> scripts/ditaa.jar
>>
>> in the repo. In fact, there is no
ot;
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
>
> Jarmo Hurri writes:
>
> > Greetings.
> >
> > I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
> > a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib re
. Using org should not be
made
more difficult than it already is.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 8:49 AM
> From: "Arthur Miller"
> To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide"
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
>
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes:
> Russell Adams writes:
>
>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:28:57PM +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
>>> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
>>> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can
>>> not find the
Jarmo Hurri writes:
> Greetings.
>
> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can
> not find the file
>
> scripts/ditaa.jar
>
> in the repo. In fact, there is no directory scripts in the repo.
>
>
Russell Adams writes:
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:28:57PM +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
>> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
>> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can
>> not find the file
>>
>> scripts/ditaa.jar
>>
>> in the
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:28:57PM +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can
> not find the file
>
> scripts/ditaa.jar
>
> in the repo. In fact, there is no directory
On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 14:28, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into
> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can
> not find the file
>
> scripts/ditaa.jar
>
> in the repo. In fact, there is no directory scripts in
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