Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-08 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: > Ihor, I see you intention, however I reserve my vote for some new unique > word, preferably a single one. That's fine. I do not insist on my preferences about naming. Rather see it as a minor issue that can be resolved at any moment after we implement the functionality.

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/03/2024 12:26, Samuel Wales wrote: cannot follow discussion but is the role and scope of the proposed semantics settled and agreed upon by those who do? I think, there are enough issues with the proposed feature to discuss. Notice "naming" added to the message subject with hope to

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-07 Thread Samuel Wales
cannot follow discussion but is the role and scope of the proposed semantics settled and agreed upon by those who do?

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-07 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: >> IMHO, the whole point of the discussed construct is exactly being abstract >> and multi-purpose. > > Almost everything in Org syntax may be called "markup", so using this > word for a specific object may lead to confusion unless a couple of > extra words are added to

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/03/2024 17:56, Ihor Radchenko wrote: Max Nikulin writes: Custom inline markup. "Markup" is something abstract to my taste. I would prefer something related to concrete instances of such objects. IMHO, the whole point of the discussed construct is exactly being abstract and

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-06 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: >> Custom inline markup. > > "Markup" is something abstract to my taste. I would prefer something > related to concrete instances of such objects. IMHO, the whole point of the discussed construct is exactly being abstract and multi-purpose. > Decorators sometimes stressed

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/03/2024 00:29, Ihor Radchenko wrote: Max Nikulin writes: Does anybody have an idea of a better name for a feature? Maybe something like inline custom objects, snippets. "Objects" are used to describe syntax, but not used in the manual though. Custom inline markup. "Markup" is

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-05 Thread Suhail Singh
Suhail Singh writes: > ... due to the similarity with "inline code blocks" (cf. "code > blocks") as well as "special blocks". .. due to the /relation/ with "inline code blocks" (cf. "code blocks") as well as "special blocks". > But if it were to, I do hope the names of other similar syntactic

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-05 Thread Suhail Singh
Ihor Radchenko writes: > In my mind, "fragment" implies no nesting. FWIW, in the mind of this Org mode user as well. > But the point of the "inline special blocks" is to allow nesting as > needed. Yes, exactly! As "inline code blocks" are to "code blocks" so too are "inline special blocks"

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-05 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Max Nikulin writes: > Special blocks are really block-level elements. I see similarity, > however with a better term we could avoid "inline" specifier. I think, > the new beast may serve in some cases currently handled by macros. > LaTeX snippets are named "fragments" in the manual. > > Custom

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-05 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: > Special blocks are really block-level elements. I see similarity, > however with a better term we could avoid "inline" specifier. I think, > the new beast may serve in some cases currently handled by macros. LaTeX > snippets are named "fragments" in the manual. > >

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/03/2024 00:49, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: Ihor Radchenko writes: Max Nikulin writes: Does anybody have an idea of a better name for a feature? Maybe something like inline custom objects, snippets. "Objects" are used to describe syntax, but not used in the manual though. Custom inline

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-04 Thread Samuel Wales
[i did not aim that at any particular person!] On 3/4/24, Samuel Wales wrote: > If language is not correct, then what is said is > not what is meant; if what is said is not what is meant, > then what must be done remains undone; if this remains > undone, morals and art will deteriorate; if

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-04 Thread Samuel Wales
If language is not correct, then what is said is not what is meant; if what is said is not what is meant, then what must be done remains undone; if this remains undone, morals and art will deteriorate; if justice goes astray, the people will stand about in helpless confusion. Hence there must be

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-04 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Max Nikulin writes: > In Org syntax, "elements" are paragraphs and larger parts, while parts > within paragraphs are named objects. I admit that for org-element > everything is element. In my initial message I used 'element' loosely. Note that inline-special-block is included in

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-04 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> Does anybody have an idea of a better name for a feature? Maybe >> something like inline custom objects, snippets. "Objects" are used to >> describe syntax, but not used in the manual though. > > Custom inline markup. Custom span? I chose

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-04 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: > Does anybody have an idea of a better name for a feature? Maybe > something like inline custom objects, snippets. "Objects" are used to > describe syntax, but not used in the manual though. Custom inline markup. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor,